reo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 (edited) A big part of the feedback from players last year was that he wasn't present enough on the defensive side and focused too much on the offense. I would say that's exactly what this is. He still finds himself too busy w/ the minutiae of the day to day business of the offense so he's trying to pass that off to someone else and be more of the HC of the team in general. Is it a midseason firing? No, they'd just fire him. If it doesn't work will he be in trouble? Yes. The most interesting part is that the play calling didn't go to Holz. Edited September 23, 2025 by reo Tex in a Can, Mythos27, airmcnair22, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenj Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 3 minutes ago, tgo said: He's saying this of course because his next job is going to be as a play calling OC. I don't know. I think he's more likely to step back into a QB coach role. He's not successfully steered an offense and this was his first place calling plays (and it's not gone well). I'm sure he'll want to be a playcalling OC, but I'm not buying that he'll get hired as one immediately after he's fired. IsntLifeFunny, tgo, reo, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaTitan Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 11 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: He was, they said it He was hired to call plays as a HC, not because he WAS a playcaller. He didn't call plays in Cincinnati titanruss, Starkiller, japan, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex in a Can Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 Holtz is like chopped liver in the organization. Starkiller, and Mythos27 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bulluck4dmvp Posted September 23, 2025 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 People in the facility to Holz Tex in a Can, Supernope, Jamalisms, and 9 others 4 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shafted1 Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 I thought this was the most likely move when they didn’t fire Callahan though I thought McCoy would be OC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 (edited) Suppose things get a better on offense and they win a few games the remainder of the season and Ward improves. Callahan is going to have to fire his best friend and promote Hardegree to OC this offseason to have any chance to keep his job in that scenario. (Most likely though, Callahan will be fired) Edited September 23, 2025 by tgo titanskick8851, DCTitan, and Mythos27 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IowaOiler Posted September 23, 2025 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 If he fucks up game management on Sunday, I'm going to laugh pretty fucking hard. Supernope, DecepticonShawn2, IsntLifeFunny, and 3 others 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanUpNorth Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 6 minutes ago, Righteous said: This team is competing in 2027. I hope you're right, I'm not convinced though, I'm just seeing the same old Titans, new stadium in 2027 that's about it. Colts WR Pittman said he saw in warm-ups this team wasn't ready to play. Something is off, we shouldn't be this bad. DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex in a Can Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 I remember a few games with the Raiders with Hardegree , he did ok, unpredictable with success at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 Just now, Tex in a Can said: Holtz is like chopped liver in the organization. Maybe. I don't really know his role. I can see why they'd give the play calling responsitilities to Hardegree as he's got experience doing it but then... why isn't he the OC and Holz the QB coach? Seems they think Holz needed help last year and brought in Hardegree but didn't want to demote Holz. This is essentially a demoting of Holz imo. Tex in a Can, and DCTitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 2 minutes ago, tgo said: Suppose things get a better on offense and they win a few games the remainder of the season and Ward improves. Callahan is going to have to fire his best friend and promote Hardegree to OC this offseason to have any chance to keep his job in that scenario. (Most likely though, Callahan will be fired) He's not in trouble... yet. Again, Jim Mora went 3-13 w/ Peyton Manning. This is a very complicated QB driven offense. It's going to be about how much Ward improves as much as anything else. TerryBoats, rns90, and IsntLifeFunny 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaOiler Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 See...meathead just refused to name his buddy DC. BC should learn from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tgo Posted September 23, 2025 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 1 minute ago, reo said: He's not in trouble... yet. Again, Jim Mora went 3-13 w/ Peyton Manning. This is a very complicated QB driven offense. It's going to be about how much Ward improves as much as anything else. Callahan isn't in trouble yet? What? He's very much in trouble. FireInTheHole, IsntLifeFunny, japan, and 4 others 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 When someone is obscenely bad at such a basic thing, making that thing an even bigger responsibility for them rarely turns out well. Though I guess they didn't really have any other options, as demoting a HC to coordinator and promoting someone else looks ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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