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1 hour ago, Callidus said:

Nabers is better than tate, my point was he went lower because of who else was in that draft. He should have gone 4 though. He was superior to mhj imo

 

Ridley isnt the worst comparison style wise but tate is better across the board and vastly superior in a couple ways. Tates drop rate for his whole college career is 3.8, 0% this past season. Ridley was 9.3%

My point is in the top 5 you get guys like this

 

1st: NONE

2nd: Calvin Johnson, Charles Rogers

3rd: Braylon Edwards, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson

4th: Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins, AJ Green, Peter Warrick

5th: Jamarr Chase, Corey Davis, Justin Blackmon

6th: Jalen Waddle, Julio Jones

 

Six of these guys are Hall of Fame level players. That's what you want at 4th overall pick. 

  1. Calvin Johnson
  2. Larry Fitzgerald
  3. Andre Johnson
  4. Julio Jones
  5. Ja’Marr Chase (trajectory)
  6. A.J. Green (elite peak)

 

I don't think Tate fits in that category of a prospect. Mabye its possible but for me its a stretch. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

Ridley is known since college as a very good route runner with speed. He's never been just a deep speed guy.   

 

 

He has questionable hands and has for years as opposed to Tate.  Again they are different players.  And they need multiple WR so I don’t know why you are comparing them.

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3 minutes ago, rns90 said:

He has questionable hands and has for years as opposed to Tate.  Again they are different players.  And they need multiple WR so I don’t know why you are comparing them.

Bc I was talking with someobe else about where Tate belongs on the board. If you don't know why I was comparing them then you could.. you know. move on. I wasn't talking to you.      But Tate and Ridley comparison has been done many times... I didn't invent it. Even the poster I was talking to said it wasn't a bad one. 

 

But sure.. not that big of a deal to my bigger point.  Not a hill I'm dying on.  

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1 minute ago, reo said:

 

The only thing I DON'T want is to reach for a need. I don't want another Latham b/c we need damn tackle when we can get a Latham in round 2.

 

I want the best chance and getting a generational talent. If that's Love, draft him. If that's Styles, draft him. If that's Downs, draft him. i don't care. #4 should be the pick where you get a guy who changes your team.

 

 

And don't get me wrong.. Latham is fine. But we could've gotten a damn RT in the 2nd round.

We desperately need stars not role players 

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11 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

My point is in the top 5 you get guys like this

 

1st: NONE

2nd: Calvin Johnson, Charles Rogers

3rd: Braylon Edwards, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson

4th: Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins, AJ Green, Peter Warrick

5th: Jamarr Chase, Corey Davis, Justin Blackmon

6th: Jalen Waddle, Julio Jones

 

Six of these guys are Hall of Fame level players. That's what you want at 4th overall pick. 

  1. Calvin Johnson
  2. Larry Fitzgerald
  3. Andre Johnson
  4. Julio Jones
  5. Ja’Marr Chase (trajectory)
  6. A.J. Green (elite peak)

 

I don't think Tate fits in that category of a prospect. Mabye its possible but for me its a stretch. 

 

 

I posted a few days ago that Tate's projection could be more or less AJ Green. Neither are YAC guys, but are both boundary guys, good at ball tracking, both good at high pointing, and both move the same with a smooth stride and leveraging how they get open. And they Green was a bit more explosive, whereas Tate is a bit more smooth. And Tate has hands made of Gorilla glue.

Whether he has the career Green had remains to be seen, although having Cam as his QB he'll have of opportunities.

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Just now, NashvilleNinja said:

 

I posted a few days ago that Tate's projection could be more or less AJ Green. Neither are YAC guys, but are both boundary guys, good at ball tracking, both good at high pointing, and both move the same with a smooth stride and leveraging how they get open. And they Green was a bit more explosive, whereas Tate is a bit more smooth. And Tate has hands made of Gorilla glue.

Whether he has the career Green had remains to be seen, although having Cam as his QB he'll have of opportunities.

Cool. I get you liking him then. I don't see him being that good. He hasnt shown that to me and when I watch him being a generational WR seems a stretch but .. talent evaluation kinda sucks.  I don't hate your opinion.. I just dont see it. 

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30 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

My point is in the top 5 you get guys like this

 

1st: NONE

2nd: Calvin Johnson, Charles Rogers

3rd: Braylon Edwards, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson

4th: Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins, AJ Green, Peter Warrick

5th: Jamarr Chase, Corey Davis, Justin Blackmon

6th: Jalen Waddle, Julio Jones

 

Six of these guys are Hall of Fame level players. That's what you want at 4th overall pick. 

  1. Calvin Johnson
  2. Larry Fitzgerald
  3. Andre Johnson
  4. Julio Jones
  5. Ja’Marr Chase (trajectory)
  6. A.J. Green (elite peak)

 

I don't think Tate fits in that category of a prospect. Mabye its possible but for me its a stretch. 

 

Ninja has been comparing him to aj green for awhile now. I think aj is a little to big for the comparison. But he certainly is closer to him than Ridley. Hell, id say he reminds me alot of fitz. I wont use that as a comparison because the dude is a legend but an elite route runner who catches everything he touches but isnt a burner sure sounds like the fitz arch type. 

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27 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

Bc I was talking with someobe else about where Tate belongs on the board. If you don't know why I was comparing them then you could.. you know. move on. I wasn't talking to you.      But Tate and Ridley comparison has been done many times... I didn't invent it. Even the poster I was talking to said it wasn't a bad one. 

 

But sure.. not that big of a deal to my bigger point.  Not a hill I'm dying on.  

I sais style wise it wasn't a bad comparison. They look similar with how they move and are both mostly used as intermediate to deep threats. But i also said tate blows him away in just about every way. 

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3 minutes ago, Callidus said:

Ninja has been comparing him to aj green for awhile now. I think aj is a little to big for the comparison. But he certainly is closer to him than Ridley. Hell, id say he reminds me alot of fitz. I wont use that as a comparison because the dude is a legend but an elite route runner who catches everything he touches but isnt a burner sure sounds like the fitz arch type. 

Those guys jumped off the tape though. I dont' see him as that high of a prospect but cool.   Love for me is the only one that jumps off the screen that way.  Downs has that rep and does but his athleticism doesnt as much.   I'll watch more of him though. I'm not exactluy down on him when I'm basically just saying he doesn't scream future hall of famer the way I want. 

 

But if he is that level of prospect as Fitz.. yeah.. go get him. 

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