rns90 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 5 minutes ago, Titans279 said: I assume you worked your way up the totem pole and have some expertise in the areas your teams work in? AAS has none. Let’s be honest. She owns the team . Thats different. She isn’t butting in on some complicated business matter. Her only “expertise” that’s she needs is answering a yes/no question that’s been answered before by her: is this the right coach moving forward for our team? oldschool, japan, VaTitan, and 2 others 1 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 (edited) 32 minutes ago, oldschool said: lol he was making around $3M a year. Nothing special for NFL HCs. For 5 years. That's more than virtually everyone else alive makes. And they really handed that money over to him because he said what they wanted to hear in an interview - not because he actually had any success that he could claim as his own, or even proved that he capable of doing anything relevant to the job. That's just wild to me that the candidate quality level is so low for such a high paying job. Edited October 15 by TerryBoats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 7 minutes ago, rns90 said: Let’s be honest. She owns the team . Thats different. She isn’t butting in on some complicated business matter. Her only “expertise” that’s she needs is answering a yes/no question that’s been answered before by her: is this the right coach moving forward for our team? Of course she can make any decision she wants. That doesn't mean she should. You don't think that firing the HC is a complicated football decision? If made against the wishing of Borganzi/Brinker, does that make you wonder why they didn't want to fire him yet? If you are so convinced it was the right call, doesn't that make you question their football judgment? Maybe AAS should fire them now instead of in a year or two. Jamalisms, airmcnair22, Mythos27, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Oldschool sporting that "I just got invited to take notes for a low level VP at a paper company's sales meeting, so I know how all NFL teams work" energy. VaTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Supernope Posted October 15 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 15 rumor is Amy was the one demanding all the wr screens IsntLifeFunny, Omar, TF_Titan, and 11 others 2 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 11 minutes ago, Titans279 said: Of course she can make any decision she wants. That doesn't mean she should. You don't think that firing the HC is a complicated football decision? If made against the wishing of Borganzi/Brinker, does that make you wonder why they didn't want to fire him yet? If you are so convinced it was the right call, doesn't that make you question their football judgment? Maybe AAS should fire them now instead of in a year or two. Callahan was getting fired this season at some point. if Borgonzi or Brinker were against anything, it was the timing. I'm not a fan of AAS but if she weighed the info at hand, listened to Brinker and Borgonzi and then ended up making the call, she should be applauded for doing so. If you owned a team would you seriously never involve yourself in decisions like when to fire the historically bad HC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 18 minutes ago, Titans279 said: Of course she can make any decision she wants. That doesn't mean she should. You don't think that firing the HC is a complicated football decision? If made against the wishing of Borganzi/Brinker, does that make you wonder why they didn't want to fire him yet? If you are so convinced it was the right call, doesn't that make you question their football judgment? Maybe AAS should fire them now instead of in a year or two. Yep. Said it earlier today but either they're idiots or she's meddling. Hard to be an in-between, assuming she forced it. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post animatormike Posted October 15 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 15 The McCormick article literally just gives the opinion of some unnamed people about the situation. We have no idea what happens inside that building, never have and probably never will. The best reporter we got is creepy-ass "What is Amy wearing right now?" PK. I for one am thrilled Callahan was fired. Thank you Amy. Now can you try to hire a bit better? ctm, ChesterCopperpot1, Smokes, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 4 minutes ago, animatormike said: The best reporter we got is creepy-ass "What is Amy wearing right now?" PK. Funny because true. Bongo59, and Nash 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cenj Posted October 15 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 15 (edited) I call BS. AAS specifically requesting Callahan be stripped of playcalling duties? Lol. No way she's that specific. It makes no sense based on everything else we've heard. More likely is that she wanted to fire him earlier and B&B (or just Brinker) said they wanted to keep him. I could see her then demanding some plan or adjustment because he was totally overwhelmed managing the team, and B&B decided to change playcallers. Which btw is as patient as she should have ever been. I'm less worried about AAS and more worried about Brinker. If anyone was blindsided by the firing, they are as myopic and inept as Callahan. Everyone in the NFL was waiting for his guillotine. Edited October 15 by cenj DCTitan, NashvilleNinja, Justafan, and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo59 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 1 hour ago, japan said: Little doubt about that Both betas so we will get more of the same. TN is losing out this yr. We will be 1-16. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 1 hour ago, rns90 said: Let’s be honest here; some of you don’t like her because of Vrabel etc and now you guys are just using it to pile on regardless or not she was actually correct in firing Callahan now. Even if she was meddling in a way that isn't ideal, Callahan was a dead man walking. And the idea that she told them to take his playcalling away is asinine. I doubt she knows much of the difference between a play or a call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 7 minutes ago, oldschool said: Callahan was getting fired this season at some point. if Borgonzi or Brinker were against anything, it was the timing. I'm not a fan of AAS but if she weighed the info at hand, listened to Brinker and Borgonzi and then ended up making the call, she should be applauded for doing so. If you owned a team would you seriously never involve yourself in decisions like when to fire the historically bad HC? My assumption is that Brinker and Borganzi were going to evaluate Callahan at the end of the season and make their decision then. You yourself said it seems like Borgonzi and Brinker seemed shocked by the firing, so I don't think there was much "weighing the info at hand, listening to their case" going on if the decision was made in a way that they were clearly unprepared for. I have to assume that they did not think it best to fire him now and did not expect it. She did, probably not for actual football reasons. There's a reason teams wait until at least the bye to make a change. A lot of people have been making up football reasons for firing him, these are just rationalizations if the actual football people did not agree. Either that, or they are morons and will be fired soon. Honestly this reminds me of how I thought it was very stupid to go into the season with just Levis and Rudolph at QB (the only move at QB they made was signing the lowest paid backup in the league!). Then they bench Levis after week 6. It is very similar to going into the season with a coach you yourself said should have been fired weeks ago. If you know in the first 3 games that you should fire a coach, you should not have gone into the season with him. Now they have a QB that the next HC was not involved in drafting. We are just repeating the same mistakes over and over. DCTitan, Mythos27, Jamalisms, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Oh shit they fired Asst. Tom Jones. Can’t believe they just did that when they fired Callahan 2 days ago. Shows how damaged this org truly is. There was no cohesive firing strategy to align them to happen at once. This is erratic behaviour, the teams doomed. CreepingDeath, and oldschool 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 8 minutes ago, Titans279 said: My assumption is that Brinker and Borganzi were going to evaluate Callahan at the end of the season and make their decision then. You yourself said it seems like Borgonzi and Brinker seemed shocked by the firing, so I don't think there was much "weighing the info at hand, listening to their case" going on if the decision was made in a way that they were clearly unprepared for. I have to assume that they did not think it best to fire him now and did not expect it. She did, probably not for actual football reasons. There's a reason teams wait until at least the bye to make a change. A lot of people have been making up football reasons for firing him, these are just rationalizations if the actual football people did not agree. Either that, or they are morons and will be fired soon. Honestly this reminds me of how I thought it was very stupid to go into the season with just Levis and Rudolph at QB (the only move at QB they made was signing the lowest paid backup in the league!). Then they bench Levis after week 6. It is very similar to going into the season with a coach you yourself said should have been fired weeks ago. If you know in the first 3 games that you should fire a coach, you should not have gone into the season with him. Now they have a QB that the next HC was not involved in drafting. We are just repeating the same mistakes over and over. What I said is that they didn't have a clear plan to execute the firing on Monday. Honestly you can argue they should have been prepared for it because it was clear Callahan lost the team and the team was getting worse each week. I'm not sure why some think the bye was worth waiting for. Callahan was done here and there was no point waiting to make a move. business 101. lol at the idea the new HC is now saddled with Ward. This isn't a Levis situations. The new HC will view Ward as a major asset like Vrabel did Maye. I don't get the infatuation with total org teardown to ensure the GM, HC, and QB all arrive at the same time. How often does that even happen? have teams that do it that way have more success? DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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