titanruss Posted September 23, 2025 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 I don't think it's weird that Holtz lost out on the playcalling duties. Its weird that our playcalling HC and OC had never called plays before getting here. The logical thing, when handing off playcalling duties during time of duress, is to let someone call plays that has done it before. It is unusual but it's logical. Mythos27, CreepingDeath, and OilerTitanHybrid 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 6 minutes ago, tgo said: Suppose things get a better on offense and they win a few games the remainder of the season and Ward improves. Callahan is going to have to fire his best friend and promote Hardegree to OC this offseason to have any chance to keep his job in that scenario. (Most likely though, Callahan will be fired) He's done. There's no way you keep him on after this. You just literally took away what he was brought in to do. rns90, Starkiller, tgo, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 1 minute ago, tgo said: Callahan isn't in trouble yet? What? He's very much in trouble. Not yet he's not. Or he'd have been fired instead of being given the chance to hand play calling duties to someone else and focus on more of the team. That's them saying they think he's capable but is too focused on the offense. But if it doesn't get better, he'll be in trouble. Thrill, and TerryBoats 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 McCoy didn’t get it because he’s about to take over as interim HC when Callahan is fired soon. Makes 200 percent sense titanruss, titanskick8851, and airmcnair22 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 Just now, IsntLifeFunny said: He's done. There's no way you keep him on after this. You just literally took away what he was brought in to do. Then they'd have fired him. He was brought in to groom a QB, not specifically to call plays. He didn't even call plays in Cincy. TerryBoats, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 Just now, reo said: Then they'd have fired him. He was brought in to groom a QB, not specifically to call plays. He didn't even call plays in Cincy. You have zero idea what they would do. What is known is that he just had his balls chopped out from him, forced by the FO, and can't even hand the plays to his hand chosen OC. Not in trouble lol. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 Just now, IsntLifeFunny said: You have zero idea what they would do. What is known is that he just had his balls chopped out from him, forced by the FO, and can't even hand the plays to his hand chosen OC. Not in trouble lol. lol " you have zero idea what they would do" and proceeds to make a general assumption on what they're doing. if they wanted him gone, he'd be gone. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post titanruss Posted September 23, 2025 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 (edited) Hardegree at Vegas came in and averaged ~8 more points per game than when Mcdaniels was running the offense. The raiders also nearly made the playoffs after a shit start under McDaniels - with Aiden Oconnell at QB. Edited September 23, 2025 by titanruss titanskick8851, DCTitan, Supernope, and 2 others 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 Just now, reo said: lol " you have zero idea what they would do" and proceeds to make a general assumption on what they're doing. if they wanted him gone, he'd be gone. It's like you don't understand logic or words. Do you think he just handed up the duties? headhunter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ctm Posted September 23, 2025 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 This move...a non firing but stripping of authority....keeps AAS from being labeled impulsive again. Aramis, Thrill, Jamalisms, and 14 others 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted September 23, 2025 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 Just now, IsntLifeFunny said: It's like you don't understand logic or words. Do you think he just handed up the duties? its possible.... but not likely at all. this was a forced "something has to change" move. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 Just now, IsntLifeFunny said: It's like you don't understand logic or words. Do you think he just handed up the duties? I think they told him he's too focused on the offense and needs to step back and hand duties to someone else so he can focus on the whole team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rns90 Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 3 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: You have zero idea what they would do. What is known is that he just had his balls chopped out from him, forced by the FO, and can't even hand the plays to his hand chosen OC. Not in trouble lol. Yeah . Guy gets hired on his ability to call plays . He now has to hand that off to someone else. Hard to spin that as anything positive . DCTitan, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 1 minute ago, reo said: I think they told him he's too focused on the offense and needs to step back and hand duties to someone else so he can focus on the whole team. Correct, which means the FO initiated and forced the move on him after only 3 weeks. Justafan, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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