JRob Fired. Wyatt Confirmed.

[Mythos27]

8 hours ago, Supdawg said:

 

Y'all will laugh but this really was the original sin. We never recovered from this and trying to fill this hole also led to deficiencies at other positions. 

Edited December 7, 2022 by Mythos27

[flaming_thumbtack]

The firing makes much more sense if you basically draw a line after the 2020 AFC championship loss and look at what has happened since then. 

 

The 2020 and 2021 draft classes have been abysmal thus far. I don't think it is fair to judge this draft yet, but for sake of being fair, I think it does look better than 2020 and 2021 so far (the bar (producing a single starter) is low).

 

We have made 15 trades since then and have not markedly won any of them (besides maybe the trade backs for Rice/Weaver and McCreary/NPF/Phillips) and have definitively lost a handful including the AJB and Julio trades.

 

Free agency overall has been rough; while we got guys like Autry and Jackrabbit (who was spotty), we had many duds (some big) like Dupree, Hooper, Reynolds, Beasley, and Clowney. 

 

Since then, we have lost CD, AJB, Saffold, Conklin, Ryan, and Adoree and are worse at each of their positions. The only obvious upgrades we have made are at ILB and maybe at EDGE and on the DLine.

 

The roster has deteriorated in an extreme way, and it's not like we have any titles, cap space, or future draft capital to show for it. 

 

If we were firing the GM that constructed the 2019-20 roster, I think there would be a lot of cause to be upset. However, the GM we have had since then has performed remarkably differently, and if he continued at the rate we have seen over the past 2/3 years, our roster may have continued to deteriorate until we were a bottom feeder. 

[flaming_thumbtack]

2 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Y'all will laugh but this really was the original sin. We never recovered from this and trying to fill this whole also led to deficiencies at other positions. 

Imagine we don't sign Clowney, Beasley, and Dupree, and we retain Conklin, Adoree, and AJ. Not one-to-one in terms of dollars, but not as far off as you would think (especially considering the draft capital we would recoup from not having to continue throwing darts to find a tackle, CBs, and WRs). 

[Supernope]

3 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Y'all will laugh but this really was the original sin. We never recovered from this and trying to fill this whole also led to deficiencies at other positions. 

 

[OILERMAN]

18 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

That's what you get for being a mailman.

This is after Tuesday(today)!! LOL

 

 

[NashvilleNinja]

1 minute ago, OILERMAN said:

This is after Tuesday(today)!! LOL

 

 

 

Good job, Terminator.

 

[OILERMAN]

If this current team is healthy they are absolutely a SB contender. This is way bigger than the construction of the current roster. 

 

I'd guess Vrabel and Robinson have been at odds for a while over stuff beneath the surface. 

[TheChosenTitan]

5 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

This is after Tuesday(today)!! LOL

 

 

Got to pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers

[oldschool]

3 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

If this current team is healthy they are absolutely a SB contender. This is way bigger than the construction of the current roster. 

 

I'd guess Vrabel and Robinson have been at odds for a while over stuff beneath the surface. 

 

I don't think so. The OL is terrible and they have no offensive weapons besides the two rookies. On defense CB is a huge issue as is ILB. The roster has holes even when healthy.

[NashvilleNinja]

1 minute ago, OILERMAN said:

If this current team is healthy they are absolutely a SB contender. This is way bigger than the construction of the current roster. 

 

I'd guess Vrabel and Robinson have been at odds for a while over stuff beneath the surface. 

 

Even so, the Brown trade had to have been the straw the broke the camel's back after Sunday. The rotten cherry on top of the shit sundae. Vrabel's reaction on draft night got downplayed at the time, but it's really glaring now. Not that this makes Brown any less of a head case, but this really puts how that went down into a different light.

 

And the construction of the roster may be able to produce more wins than losses... this is definitely a playoff team... but it's a wide gap between being a playoff team and being a Super Bowl caliber team. The OL alone could prevent that trip.

[Mythos27]

7 hours ago, titansfan said:

Like even not re-signing Corey Davis was terrible decision because all it led to was trading a valuable 2nd round pick for a injury riddled Julio Jones.

 

 

The trend was there, and AAS said enough after seeing it blow up in our faces directly on Sunday.

If memory serves, J-Rob didn't even offer Davis or Jonnu anything. His confidence in being able to replace good players on a dime bordered on arrogance. At least with AJ he had a first round pick and a receiver rich draft at his disposal.

 

[headhunter]

13 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

This is after Tuesday(today)!! LOL

 

 

I see a guy with no life 

[No1TitansFan]

11 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

If this current team is healthy they are absolutely a SB contender. This is way bigger than the construction of the current roster. 

 

I'd guess Vrabel and Robinson have been at odds for a while over stuff beneath the surface. 

I think there may be something on the medical side that hasn't seen the light of day yet that will justify the suddeness of this move. There's been a lot of hints about surgeries not going as well as initially thought they did and super slow recoveries from all sorts of injuries and lots of reoccurences and setbacks.

Edited December 7, 2022 by No1TitansFan

[NashvilleNinja]

16 minutes ago, flaming_thumbtack said:

The firing makes much more sense if you basically draw a line after the 2020 AFC championship loss and look at what has happened since then. 

 

The 2020 and 2021 draft classes have been abysmal thus far. I don't think it is fair to judge this draft yet, but for sake of being fair, I think it does look better than 2020 and 2021 so far (the bar (producing a single starter) is low).

 

We have made 15 trades since then and have not markedly won any of them (besides maybe the trade backs for Rice/Weaver and McCreary/NPF/Phillips) and have definitively lost a handful including the AJB and Julio trades.

 

Free agency overall has been rough; while we got guys like Autry and Jackrabbit (who was spotty), we had many duds (some big) like Dupree, Hooper, Reynolds, Beasley, and Clowney. 

 

Since then, we have lost CD, AJB, Saffold, Conklin, Ryan, and Adoree and are worse at each of their positions. The only obvious upgrades we have made are at ILB and maybe at EDGE and on the DLine.

 

The roster has deteriorated in an extreme way, and it's not like we have any titles, cap space, or future draft capital to show for it. 

 

If we were firing the GM that constructed the 2019-20 roster, I think there would be a lot of cause to be upset. However, the GM we have had since then has performed remarkably differently, and if he continued at the rate we have seen over the past 2/3 years, our roster may have continued to deteriorate until we were a bottom feeder. 

 

Babe Ruth sure fell off that cliff quicker than a chin can quiver.

[NashvilleNinja]

1 minute ago, No1TitansFan said:

I think there may be something on the medical side that hasn't seen the light of day yet that will justify the suddeness of this move. There's been a lot of hints about surgeries not going as well as initially though they did and super slow recoveries from all sorts of injuries and lots of reoccurences and setbacks.

 

Medical side for who? Robinson? Did the weight loss surgery not take?