Mariota is terrible and should be replaced

[StephenIsLegend]

22 minutes ago, big2033 said:

We have other seasons where he didn't play well ... jesus.

 

Overall, Mariota hasn't been good. Statistically and Objectively.

 

Mariota needs to play extremely well over a season to change that narrative.

 

Just like Jameis Winston. 

 

Pretty simple.

And Mariota has only played one game this season so far. His stats are better than his gameplay for sure, but you can’t discount that. 

 

Realistically, no one really knows what the barometer is at for Mariota. Did I like what I saw today from him? Not really. I’m closer to being in the camp of wanting a new QB than I am sticking with him. His mechanics are still bad and the big time miss was awful. BUT, he did what he had to do against a good Cleveland defense. He didn’t shit the bed and actually did decently well. 

 

Still, the inconsistency is bothersome. But STILL, he has only had one game so far this season. Let the season play out. 

[titanruss]

3 minutes ago, big2033 said:

I answered the question. We didn't have a lot of passing yards so you can't brag about YAC lol.

 

That first pass to Brown could've been a TD if properly throw. AKA more YAC.

lol... absolutely i can. we didnt throw a ton.... but much of the yards came in YAC... so your point is moot for this game. 

 

i'm sure now you'll say that he only got the yards he did get because of YAC.. 

 

which you already did with an excellently thrown and executed screen pass. 

 

and fuck no that first throw couldnt have been a td. he was getting hit in the goddam kneecaps. it was a great throw under the circumstances. 

[big2033]

1 minute ago, StephenIsLegend said:

And Mariota has only played one game this season so far. His stats are better than his gameplay for sure, but you can’t discount that. 

 

Realistically, no one really knows what the barometer is at for Mariota. Did I like what I saw today from him? Not really. I’m closer to being in the camp of wanting a new QB than I am sticking with him. His mechanics are still bad and the big time miss was awful. BUT, he did what he had to do against a good Cleveland defense. He didn’t shit the bed and actually did decently well. 

 

Still, the inconsistency is bothersome. But STILL, he has only had one game so far this season. Let the season play out. 

Nobody knows what the future holds but what we've seen thus far from previous seasons to present paints a pretty obvious picture.

 

We have to accept that.

[big2033]

1 minute ago, titanruss said:

lol... absolutely i can. we didnt throw a ton.... but much of the yards came in YAC... so your point is moot for this game. 

 

i'm sure now you'll say that he only got the yards he did get because of YAC.. 

 

which you already did with an excellently thrown and executed screen pass. 

 

and fuck no that first throw couldnt have been a td. he was getting hit in the goddam kneecaps. it was a great throw under the circumstances. 

You're really delusional. It was a screen pass ... lol LOW BAR.

 

QBs with arm strength can make that throw. Mariota can't. He sails it.

[SamoanTitan78]

1 minute ago, big2033 said:

You're really delusional. It was a screen pass ... lol LOW BAR.

 

QBs with arm strength can make that throw. Mariota can't. He sails it.

Lol, Mariota has made those throws before dude, not his first time......

[VondyP]

this thread is retarded.

 

250+ yds 3TDs and 0 INTS.... 

 

anyone complaining about that is a complete moron.

[TitanDuckFan]

8 minutes ago, VondyP said:

this thread is retarded.

 

250+ yds 3TDs and 0 INTS.... 

 

anyone complaining about that is a complete moron.

And a hearty "Welcome to Titans Report" to you!

[TF_Titan]

6 minutes ago, VondyP said:

anyone complaining about that is a complete moron.

You haven’t seen anything yet.

[NashvilleNinja]

19 minutes ago, titanruss said:

no ones braggin, dipschnitzel...

take out the 75... how was the YAC today?

The ones most critical of Mariota's #'s the last couple years are the same ones dismissing his numbers today.

 

The Goldilocks syndrome is real. "This porridge is too hot, this pass is too low, this game had too many touchdowns to match the actual performance" etc

[Titans279]

45 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

Imagine him doing this every game this year.

 

It'll be the worst 40 touchdown season in league history.

You are so close to getting it.

 

If he plays like he did today it's very unlikely he would have 3 touchdowns per game. We won't have 75 yard screen passes every game or short fields set up by 2 INTs leading to 34 and 35 yard touchdown drives (DH run, DH run, scramble/penalty, 11 yard TD pass; and DH run, DH run, DH run, 7 yard TD pass).

 

This game was awesome. I loved it. I hope we can somehow luck our way into a Super Bowl with superb defense and a gritty offense. But it's pretty unlikely in today's NFL.

[TheBukafax]

42 minutes ago, VondyP said:

this thread is retarded.

 

250+ yds 3TDs and 0 INTS.... 

 

anyone complaining about that is a complete moron.

GoTitans close?

[nine]

After re-watching the first half and rewinding plays several times....I feel a lot better about Mariota's performance.   I'm not saying it was a Mahomes-esque showing or anything....but compared to previous years, this game represented a big step forward in terms of his awareness and processing speed.

 

While watching it in real time, I didn't realize just how much heat the Browns were bringing or how quickly the pressure was getting there.    The Browns knew going in that Mariota has historically struggled to deal with pressure and that the Titans' O-line was extremely vulnerable.....so they obviously made a point of exploiting those weaknesses.  And they did a hell of a good job with it, consistently getting to the QB within 2.5 seconds.

 

With the amount of pressure the Browns were getting on Mariota, this game could have easily turned into another Ravens-type embarrassment....but it didn't.    The Browns got pass rushers in his face quickly and consistently and rarely allowed him a clean pocket to throw from....but instead of freezing up and/or trying to run away from the pressure, he got the ball out before the pass rush could get there.    This included several plays where he knew he was gonna get get hit....but instead of trying to duck or spin away like last year, he stood in there, made the throws and took the hits.   (A couple of which resulted in roughing-the-passer calls.)

 

He rarely held the ball for a full 2.5 seconds.   On more than one occasion he had a pass rusher in his face within 1.5 - 2.0 seconds after the snap and still got the ball out....which is something we didn't see last year.   His first two sacks happened in 1.7 seconds and 2.0 seconds respectively.....his initial read wasn't open and there wasn't time to get to his second read.

 

There were obviously 2-3 throws that got away from him...plays where he had an open receiver and simply missed him.   He's got to hit those, of course.

 

But the fact is, this game could have very easily turned into an 8+ sack performance with 2-3 turnovers.  We've seen it happen before.   But instead, he ended up throwing for 248 yards with 3 TDs and 0 turnovers...and zero major mistakes despite frequent blitzes and inconsistent protection.

 

If this was a bad game for Marcus, then I'll be very interested to see what a good one looks like.

 

[pat]

Mariota is mediocre.  Winning with Mariota means making opposing QBs mediocre. This defense has proven to be good enough to do so against average QBs.  So far, we haven't been able to do so against elite QBs.  Simmons is an addition that can pressure elite QBs.

 

The division is ripe for the picking.  Defense and Henry both travel well in the winter.  This team could get better by the end of the year.  You don't waste that shot just to try another mediocre QB.

 

Tannehill will get his chance, but this team isn't fucking around.

[Puck]

2 minutes ago, patsplat said:

 we haven't been able to do so against elite QBs. 

Titans beat the Patriots 34 - 10 in week 10 last season. held Brady to 0 TD's fwiw

[NashvilleNinja]

27 minutes ago, Titans279 said:

You are so close to getting it.

 

If he plays like he did today it's very unlikely he would have 3 touchdowns per game. We won't have 75 yard screen passes every game or short fields set up by 2 INTs leading to 34 and 35 yard touchdown drives (DH run, DH run, scramble/penalty, 11 yard TD pass; and DH run, DH run, DH run, 7 yard TD pass).

 

This game was awesome. I loved it. I hope we can somehow luck our way into a Super Bowl with superb defense and a gritty offense. But it's pretty unlikely in today's NFL.

There's nothing to get. It's not about the particulars or circumstances of this game. I was making a joke about how meaningless people are acting like the numbers are. Check out Nine's post above mine on this page.

 

People are completely forgetting the fact the oline was missing two starters, 3 if you count Davis as a starter. The Browns defensive front is serious and they were out for blood. They got a little, but not much because, as Nine's pointed out, MM didn't let them have it.

 

No, 75 yard screen plays won't happen most weeks. But that's not the point. It's about playing the opponent in front of you and getting through whatever they might throw at you. To some those 248 yards and 3 TDs may not mean anything, but Mariota earned every bit of them.