Callidus Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, TeamRamrod said: You better believe if Love doesn’t pan out wherever he goes, I’m gonna be reminding him about it in every comment section for years lol not because I want it to happen (I don’t) but because graver was so dogmatic in any argument he’s made I dont even like tate by comparison lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRT Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 PSA*****Reminder***** It is lying season, don’t be swayed by the talking heads on a stick. If you climb that hill, be prepared for all the ridicule that comes with it! Number9, and Supernope 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Add ESPN's Kevin Clark to the growing group who think things are trending towards the Jets taking Bailey at #2. OnsideKick, and TheChosenTitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 16 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Then you don't take the deal and select BPA. Why not take that deal? japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AussieTitanFan08 Posted April 9 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 9 (edited) 1 minute ago, Legaltitan said: Why not take that deal? Because it likely takes you out of the top tier of prospects in this draft. Very possible all out of Reese/Bailey/Love/Styles/Tate are gone. Edited April 9 by AussieTitanFan08 BeedoeLaw, titanskick8851, NashvilleNinja, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnsideKick Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Because it likely takes you out of the top tier of prospects in this draft. We'll see if Borgonzi is dead set on taking someone from that group or trading down for more picks. Edited April 9 by OnsideKick Legaltitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 55 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: For those hoping for a trade back the Chiefs doing A LOT of work on all the top pass rushers in this draft class and reporting from Breer and McShay not to expect the Chiefs to take a CB at pick #9 could see them being itchy to get up and get Bain if Bailey and Reese go at #2 and #3. This is the play imo. Create a market for Bain and Love and see if someone bites. If they don't, take your BPA at #4 which may in fact be Love. I wouldn't hate it if he's the next Gibbs. japan, Legaltitan, and KogaShuko 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 16 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: Why not take that deal? It isn't enough. 9 is outside of the elite players in this draft. japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Legaltitan Posted April 9 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 9 34 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Because it likely takes you out of the top tier of prospects in this draft. Very possible all out of Reese/Bailey/Love/Styles/Tate are gone. We've discussed for three hundred pages now that the top edge guys are flawed and not no-brainers. Same with Tate and Styles. The arguably best player that will be available, Love, is at a position many have argued is a luxury. So in other words any of those prospects would be fine, but none, even if available (Bailey almost certainly will not be), are guys worth going to the mat for. Not saying that's true, but over 300 pages that seems to be the consensus - that there is no consensus because none of these guys that will be available knock your socks off. So that being the case, why wouldn't we move down a few spots and pick up a high second rounder and help fill more holes? animatormike, Pragidealist, japan, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 24 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: It isn't enough. 9 is outside of the elite players in this draft. I have been led to believe that there will not be any truly elite players available at 4. Seems pretty clear the drop from 4 to 9 will not result in a huge difference. I mean add everything up and, other than Bailey (which several people here also don't like) there is pretty much sero consensus on the "elite" player we should pick at 4. there is no "no-brainer" that will be there when we pick. Add everything up that we have discussed, and it is very difficult to avoid this conclusion. japan, titanruss, and OnsideKick 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BeedoeLaw Posted April 9 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 9 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: I have been led to believe that there will not be any truly elite players available at 4. Seems pretty clear the drop from 4 to 9 will not result in a huge difference. I mean add everything up and, other than Bailey (which several people here also don't like) there is pretty much sero consensus on the "elite" player we should pick at 4. there is no "no-brainer" that will be there when we pick. Add everything up that we have discussed, and it is very difficult to avoid this conclusion. I think there is a consensus that Love is elite. The fact that he plays RB is his only issue. Which is not an issue for me personally. I think he is a once every 5 to 10 year RB. Edited April 9 by BeedoeLaw TerryBoats, Omar, Pragidealist, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Imagine if we still come out of the draft with the best player at pick 4 BTiger3733 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ctm Posted April 9 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 9 10 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: We've discussed for three hundred pages now that the top edge guys are flawed and not no-brainers. Same with Tate and Styles. The arguably best player that will be available, Love, is at a position many have argued is a luxury. So in other words any of those prospects would be fine, but none, even if available (Bailey almost certainly will not be), are guys worth going to the mat for. Not saying that's true, but over 300 pages that seems to be the consensus - that there is no consensus because none of these guys that will be available knock your socks off. So that being the case, why wouldn't we move down a few spots and pick up a high second rounder and help fill more holes? The best offensive playmaker in the draft isn't a luxury for a team that is virtually devoid. No Titans offensive player scares defensive coordinators or changes their defense. And btw, there is never a consensus on a message board. We had posters last year who wanted to trade down and pass on Cam. The trade down scenario is pushed every year, 100% of the time. More isn't always better. Kcroy420, FireInTheHole, BeedoeLaw, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 12 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: We've discussed for three hundred pages now that the top edge guys are flawed and not no-brainers. Same with Tate and Styles. The arguably best player that will be available, Love, is at a position many have argued is a luxury. So in other words any of those prospects would be fine, but none, even if available (Bailey almost certainly will not be), are guys worth going to the mat for. Not saying that's true, but over 300 pages that seems to be the consensus - that there is no consensus because none of these guys that will be available knock your socks off. So that being the case, why wouldn't we move down a few spots and pick up a high second rounder and help fill more holes? Trading down is really about the drop off of talent. I kind of agree with where you are going. I personally think Love is the only one in this draft worth a top 4 pick in a normal draft bc he is just special. BUT even if we say they are all really #6 to #10 value- the talent level still drops the further you go down. The only hope you have in a draft like this to get a cornerstone player is to pick the right one in the top 5. Having said that- it assumes a cornerstone type player is there at all. If the evaluation is that there is not one- then absolutely. Trade down and maximize pick volume and maybe even try to get a pick in next years first round japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 19 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: I have been led to believe that there will not be any truly elite players available at 4. Seems pretty clear the drop from 4 to 9 will not result in a huge difference. I mean add everything up and, other than Bailey (which several people here also don't like) there is pretty much sero consensus on the "elite" player we should pick at 4. there is no "no-brainer" that will be there when we pick. Add everything up that we have discussed, and it is very difficult to avoid this conclusion. The elite players in this draft are at non-premium positions. The really good ones at important positions will also be gone at 9. That's why you don't trade back unless it's for a 1st. prometheus, Justafan, Pragidealist, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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