oldschool Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 Just now, TerryBoats said: It's not like those teams get top shelf GMs or HCs. But Borgonzi was the assistant GM for KC - he's the cream of the crop. He didn't need to jump at the first job opportunity like Carthon - his name would remain hot as long as he decided that he wanted to stay in KC and could get his GM job of choice. And yet he took this job... which means he meshed with Brinker and AAS. He has agency here, most of it actually because he could have taken other GM jobs and chose this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 5 minutes ago, tgo said: She also reportedly nixed that Derrick Henry trade directly. I won't be surprised if she would take a similar stance regarding Simmons. I don't think she's meddlesome to the extent of many of these other shitty owners though at least. Like nixing random trades because Woody Johnson's son told him the player's Madden Rating was too low. Good point. Not trading Henry a dumb decision... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted October 15, 2025 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 The pattern is clear enough to reasonably assume she’s meddlesome and impulsive. She likely fired Robinson because AJ went off Mythos27, titanruss, japan, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 9 minutes ago, tgo said: Yep - I honestly lost faith in her decision making after how the whole Robinson/Vrabel fiasco and its aftermath played out. She was right to fire both of them SuperFreak90, oldschool, and cenj 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 5 minutes ago, tgo said: She also reportedly nixed that Derrick Henry trade directly. I won't be surprised if she would take a similar stance regarding Simmons. I don't think she's meddlesome to the extent of many of these other shitty owners though at least. Like nixing random trades because Woody Johnson's son told him the player's Madden Rating was too low. As the owner if she thinks a football decision of that caliber isn't good for the business side, thats her right. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AvgJoe Posted October 15, 2025 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 Do I believe Amy drove the decision to fire Callahan? Yes Do I believe Amy demanded Callahan give up Playcalling? No, because of the above. She hasn’t meddled in the coaching historically. Most likely Brinker and Borgonzi knew she was close to pulling the trigger and tried to help get Callahan through the year by encouraging him to give up play calling. SuperFreak90, cenj, titansfan, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 1 minute ago, Starkiller said: She was right to fire both of them I agree - but the cadence of the decisions and the way it was done was impulsive and ill-advised, lacked strategic clarity. TerryBoats 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 1 minute ago, OILERMAN said: The pattern is clear enough to reasonably assume she’s meddlesome and impulsive. She likely fired Robinson because AJ went off weren't you one of the poers claiming Jrob got fired because of things behind the scenes like the alcohol on the plane incident or that it was reported he stopped briefing AAS on big decisions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 Just now, tgo said: I agree - but the cadence of the decisions and the way it was done was impulsive and ill-advised, lacked strategic clarity. And she showed growth IMO by getting rid of Callahan now, versus after what’s coming on Sunday versus Vrabel. DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 Just now, AvgJoe said: Do I believe Amy drove the decision to fire Callahan? Yes Do I believe Amy demanded Callahan give up Playcalling? No, because of the above. She hasn’t meddled in the coaching historically. Most likely Brinker and Borgonzi knew she was close to pulling the trigger and tried to help get Callahan through the year by encouraging him to give up play calling. I think something this is more likely. I thought at the time that Amy probably wanted to fire him and they worked out a compromise to buy patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 1 minute ago, OILERMAN said: The pattern is clear enough to reasonably assume she’s meddlesome and impulsive. She likely fired Robinson because AJ went off That may be true. But JRob certainly needed to be fired. So I don't fault her for that. If anything her mistake was extending him. And I posted directly at the time of his extension that she should have waited. He needed to go in the worst way. rns90, SuperFreak90, DCTitan, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 Regarding Robinson: I personally think he was fired for more than just roster decisions. And we will likely never know the whole story SuperFreak90, oldschool, and TF_Titan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldschool Posted October 15, 2025 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 This fan base is so dumb Mob: Fire Callahan he sucks! AAS: Fires Callahan Mob: Why is AAS so meddlesome and firing Callahan midseason? Kcroy420, Callidus, cenj, and 7 others 7 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 Just now, tgo said: I agree - but the cadence of the decisions and the way it was done was impulsive and ill-advised, lacked strategic clarity. It may look impulsive to have fired JRob when she did, but from a practical level there was no reason to keep him on the job once he lost confidence in him. She decided he wasn’t the guy for the job and didn’t see any reason to keep him through January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 3 minutes ago, oldschool said: Firing jrob midseason was the only bad move and thats assuming there wasn't some other behind the scenes reasons for it. She tried to hire a GM to work with Vrabel on personnel, he sucked and Vrabel was impossible to work with. The victimization of Vrabel by the local and national media is disgusting. A complete fabrication of what went down. AAS is being held to a much higher standard than most owners who are allowed to do whatever they want in the media. @TheBukafax nailed it. A lot of this is that she is a woman and though most won't say it out loud, many fans and posters here don't believe women should be in positions of power in pro sports. Come on. No one is discussing her sex here. She began her tenure smartly: hiring Robinson and letting him do his job. Robinson and Vrabel went all-in on the 2021-22 season, blew it, then blew up the team and she's been fucking it all up ever since. I'm not all that up on the Oiler history, but this team is historically bad and she's a big reason why that is... Mythos27, Jamalisms, titanruss, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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