tgo Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 Just now, AvgJoe said: And she showed growth IMO by getting rid of Callahan now, versus after what’s coming on Sunday versus Vrabel. Sure but the other way to look at it would be that she made a huge strategic mistake not firing him this offseason and just hiring the new GM/HC in tandem. She does not truly believe that the HC/GM need to be fully philosophically aligned, and that is our single biggest problem. She just thinks they need to be able to work through disagreements respectfully, etc. Titans279 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 12 minutes ago, oldschool said: Has McCormick every broken a story of this magnitude? Dude doesn't even know what decade it is. I'll need that report to be confirmed elsewhere before I spend time on it. That being said, if true its a really bad look. I don't know, but he's never come across as a click bait journalist, so that holds some weight in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 5 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: The pattern is clear enough to reasonably assume she’s meddlesome and impulsive. She likely fired Robinson because AJ went off Right. I wondered if there was behind the scenes issues, alcohol, etc.... but is become apparent that she fired Robinson because she was embarrassed in Philly... Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 1 minute ago, tgo said: Sure but the other way to look at it would be that she made a huge strategic mistake not firing him this offseason and just hiring the new GM/HC in tandem. She does not truly believe that the HC/GM need to be fully philosophically aligned, and that is our single biggest problem. She just thinks they need to be able to work through disagreements respectfully, etc. I get the timeline of lining up GM and HC. But I lean differently there, I don’t think it’s bad for Borgonzi to have a year under his belt and then get paired with his HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 6 minutes ago, oldschool said: As the owner if she thinks a football decision of that caliber isn't good for the business side, thats her right. She has the right to make herself GM and HC. That doesn't make it right for the team... oldschool, Mythos27, and Jamalisms 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AvgJoe said: I get the timeline of lining up GM and HC. But I lean differently there, I don’t think it’s bad for Borgonzi to have a year under his belt and then get paired with his HC In the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal. Just not the sequencing I'd prefer if I was an owner. I bet her thought process involved having Borgonzi and his team of execs come in an evaluate Callahan fully before making a decision. Edited October 15, 2025 by tgo DCTitan, and AvgJoe 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 4 minutes ago, AvgJoe said: Regarding Robinson: I personally think he was fired for more than just roster decisions. And we will likely never know the whole story We would know this by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 4 minutes ago, oldschool said: This fan base is so dumb Mob: Fire Callahan he sucks! AAS: Fires Callahan Mob: Why is AAS so meddlesome and firing Callahan midseason? whoooosh.... titanskick8851 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 Just now, japan said: Come on. No one is discussing her sex here. She began her tenure smartly: hiring Robinson and letting him do his job. Robinson and Vrabel went all-in on the 2021-22 season, blew it, then blew up the team and she's been fucking it all up ever since. I'm not all that up on the Oiler history, but this team is historically bad and she's a big reason why that is... Jrob deserved to be fired She wanted to keep Vrabel, he forced his way out by demanding total control Carthon was a bad hire Carthon/Brinker led the search and selected Callahan. If she didn't back the hire, you'd be calling here meddlesome for that! Bottom line is she has made some poor decisions in who she hired to run the football org but this idea she's out here being mercurial and firing people who don't deserve it is crazy talk. like @ctm said and I've said many times as well, When you are in leadership and lose confidence in someone who you selected to lead a large portion of the org, its almost always better to move on at that point than let it fester. Thngs very rarely turn around at that point Lastly, lets be real where all this bullshit is coming from. its the perception that she fired a great HC in Vrabel without cause and that he was the only reason the Titans were relevant. Its a complete Fabrication/misconception of what transpired here. rns90, DCTitan, and cenj 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 1 minute ago, japan said: Right. I wondered if there was behind the scenes issues, alcohol, etc.... but is become apparent that she fired Robinson because she was embarrassed in Philly... Philly may have influenced the timing, but it wasn't near the sole cause. There is a difference. TF_Titan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 Just now, japan said: Right. I wondered if there was behind the scenes issues, alcohol, etc.... but is become apparent that she fired Robinson because she was embarrassed in Philly... I’ll be honest, I’ve always wondered about if there was an alcohol problem. Not being funny or trying to imply anything, but Robinson’s decision making took a nose dive after several strong years. Combine that with his daughter’s health struggles and it does make you wonder if he was in the right frame of mind. The weight he continued to put on while GM also contributes. I had a salesperson that worked under me for years that was extremely productive and led the team consistently. And he was a wiz in coming up with marketing campaigns. He started having some personal struggles and his decision making went to shit. It was like a totally different person. Mythos27, titanskick8851, tgo, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 5 minutes ago, tgo said: Sure but the other way to look at it would be that she made a huge strategic mistake not firing him this offseason and just hiring the new GM/HC in tandem. She does not truly believe that the HC/GM need to be fully philosophically aligned, and that is our single biggest problem. She just thinks they need to be able to work through disagreements respectfully, etc. She corrected this after the Vrabel Carthon debacle where Carthon was a pansy and Vrabel was domineering asshole. Brinker is the top dog, Borgonzi reports to him, and the HC will report to Borganzi. Its the exact structure you have been asking for years. Aramis, japan, and DCTitan 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 The ironic thing with firing Callahan before the Vrabel game, if all of this is true, is that it's actually more embarrassing than if you'd just let him finish out the year. That being said, considering how pissy the media was at the presser Monday night because AAS wasn't there has anyone considered this might be a slight hit piece? Would anyone put it past these local hacks to do something like that? Also, seriously need to consider it's McCormick. Mythos27, titanskick8851, and Starkiller 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 1 minute ago, oldschool said: Jrob deserved to be fired She wanted to keep Vrabel, he forced his way out by demanding total control Carthon was a bad hire Carthon/Brinker led the search and selected Callahan. If she didn't back the hire, you'd be calling here meddlesome for that! Bottom line is she has made some poor decisions in who she hired to run the football org but this idea she's out here being mercurial and firing people who don't deserve it is crazy talk. like @ctm said and I've said many times as well, When you are in leadership and lose confidence in someone who you selected to lead a large portion of the org, its almost always better to move on at that point than let it fester. Thngs very rarely turn around at that point Lastly, lets be real where all this bullshit is coming from. its the perception that she fired a great HC in Vrabel without cause and that he was the only reason the Titans were relevant. Its a complete Fabrication/misconception of what transpired here. I think it's fair to analyze her decision to fire Robinson when she did as mercurial. The other stuff, more arguable. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 Just now, oldschool said: She corrected this after the Vrabel Carthon debacle where Carthon was a pansy and Vrabel was domineering asshole. Brinker is the top dog, Borgonzi reports to him, and the HC will report to Borganzi. Its the exact structure you have been asking for years. Yes, she 100% arrived to the optimal football structure in the end, so I'll definitely give her credit for that. It's one of the better set-ups in the league just from an ideal structure perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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