Cam Ward

[9 Nines]

4 hours ago, Callidus said:

Im not actively trying to fight it anymore but just curious, for the ward truthers, what would you consider acceptable trade compensation?

Nothing. If the Titans feel he is a franchise QB, then there is nothing a team could give. Well, I mean if one really went crazy to offer its next five 1st round picks or something, I guess you make the trade, but something realistic like 3 or less 1st round picks is a no-go to me because in no way does three 1st round picks improve your odds of getting a franchise QB. Best case, you have to trade all those picks to another team next year to move into a place to draft what you could already draft in Ward now - so at par at best but wasted a year of development and life of your other players. 

Edited March 29, 2025 by 9 Nines

[BudsOilers]

2 minutes ago, 9 Nines said:

Nothing. If the Titans feel he is a franchise QB, then there is nothing a team could give. Well, I mean if one really went stupid and offered Its next five 1st round picks or something, I guess you make the trade, but something realistic like 3 or less 1st round picks is a no-go to me because in no way does three 1st round picks improve your odds of getting a franchise QB. Best case, you have to trade all those picks to another team next year to move into a place to draft what you could already draft in Ward now - so at par at best but wasted a year of development and life of your other players. 

This clearly isn't true since various media people are reporting the Titans were asking for 2 1st rounders plus some day 2 picks and then recently upped it to 3 1st rounders.....and there's plenty of evidence the Titans really like or love Ward.  

 

Clearly there is a price because Ward isn't viewed like an Elway or Peyton Manning or Luck or Burrow prospect.  Doesn't mean he can't end up being great.

[OilerTitanHybrid]

8 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

Ngyuen is a dullard?  Even in the complimentary piece, he says he's a step down from the elite prospects from last year (Caleb, Daniels, Maye).  The accuracy issues and some of the questionable decision making is why and also why they still are fishing for trade offers for the pick.

 

Hopefully he turns out to be great but the worst thing this retard fan base could do (and almost assuredly will do) is go over the top about him from the get go and spend the next 4 years excusing away everything if he turns out to be mid or worse.

 

 

Ngyuen?  No idea.  Didn't read it.

[TitansFan23]

McNair is his comp? How many see him as that?

[tgo]

5 minutes ago, TitansFan23 said:

McNair is his comp? How many see him as that?

He’s a cross between McNair, Mahomes, Mayfield, and Superman. 

[TeamRamrod]

5 minutes ago, TitansFan23 said:

McNair is his comp? How many see him as that?

No one has said that is his comp. Fans are just stupid as fuck. People have said he reminds them of McNair in a few very specific ways. 

[Nash]

Body wise, yes .. Ward has a solid lower body. and uses his base to throw with power

McNair had a really powerful arm, and was a reactive thrower., he did not read defenses particularly well-. if he saw the receiver open he could throw it fast enough to complete the pass..

 

Ward has much better anticipatory throws, and reads defenses ( at least these  last 3 years) far better than McNair.. he doesn’t have quite the arm strength as McNair .. 

[9 Nines]

16 minutes ago, TitansFan23 said:

McNair is his comp? How many see him as that?

When the line breaks down, he scrambles/buys time the same way McNair did - dodge, shrug defenders off etc. 

[OilerTitanHybrid]

Cam Ward once went to a casino, but couldn't get any comps!

 

signed,

 

9 Nines

[Strunk'sDessert]

2 hours ago, TeamRamrod said:

It was just the popular narrative for a long time. I’ve been saying he would’ve been 4th the whole time. 

 

I believe this is right, but if there had been a different team picking 3rd last year, I could see an org having him slightly edge out Maye if all things were equal. 

[OILERMAN]

If I had a choice of Maye right now or Ward I'm taking Ward

[TF_Titan]

1 minute ago, OILERMAN said:

If I had a choice of Maye right now or Ward I'm taking Ward

 

I'm not sure I wouldn't take Ward over everyone but Daniels out of last year's class.

[OILERMAN]

3 minutes ago, TF_Titan said:

I'm not sure I wouldn't take Ward over everyone but Daniels out of last year's class.

 

Maybe, Caleb Williams was pretty disappointing 

[titanruss]

If you go purely on college resume and all the QBs the previous 2 years and this year were combined and coming out this Draft... likely Caleb Williams is seen as the clear #1 - pretty much because he was hyped for 3 years so heavy. Ward is somewhere in the second group.

 

How they played in the pros changes how people see college guys now. There's a fear of ranking guys on a tier with a guy who was as successful in the pros as Daniels. But they also conveniently ignore the highly ranked failures. Like Young gets no respect now, but coming out that class likely is similar to this one. His height was an issue but he was seen as a cant miss player that just needed to overcome  his height.

 

Now that they played a year, of course Daniels is now seen as obviously better. Truth is we wont know for a few years. RG3 was a highly ranked stud who had an incredible first season (possibly better than Daniels) But no one wants to say that.

[TeamRamrod]

I think Ward is a way better prospect than Bryce Young. I liked Stroud a lot though so idk if I like Ward more than him. It’s probably pretty close.