Cam Ward

[AvgJoe]

1 minute ago, Mythos27 said:

well put. I like Shadeur but these are real concerns. His arm also seems pretty average. I have issues with Ward's decision-making at times but I haven't really studied him enough yet. 

Elite arm talent, incredible pocket presence, scans the field well, strong leader, and an overall game changer. Makes some head scratching decisions, but overall improved at Miami by taking his check downs more often. 

[Mythos27]

4 minutes ago, AvgJoe said:

Elite arm talent, incredible pocket presence, scans the field well, strong leader, and an overall game changer. Makes some head scratching decisions, but overall improved at Miami by taking his check downs more often. 

As we've learned from Levis though, the propensity for making those head-scratching plays doesn't typically go away at the NFL level. If anything it gets worse. I'd still be OK taking the shot because sometimes guys turn out better than you thought but the red flag is there. 

[Fry]

12 minutes ago, AvgJoe said:

Elite arm talent, incredible pocket presence, scans the field well, strong leader, and an overall game changer. Makes some head scratching decisions, but overall improved at Miami by taking his check downs more often. 

Incredible pocket presence from a guy who runs around in circles in the backfield and drifts 15 yards diagonally only to throw the ball across the field. 
 

I don’t know how anyone could be dissatisfied with how little Will Levis values possessing the ball and holds on to the ball forever and could think Ward is the answer.  

[SuperFreak90]

If you're picking at number two, you're taking a QB. 

[Mythos27]

2 minutes ago, SuperFreak90 said:

If you're picking at number two, you're taking a QB. 

I think that not picking one, with Levis as your only other option is begging to get fired. Could you imagine looking exactly the same next year say around week 6 and the owner asks Ran why he didn't take a QB? You almost have to just too have a shot at keeping your job. No one survives another year of this. 

[AussieTitanFan08]

Just now, Mythos27 said:

I think that not picking one, with Levis as your only other option is begging to get fired. Could you imagine looking exactly the same next year say around week 6 and the owner asks Ran why he didn't take a QB? You almost have to just too have a shot at keeping your job. No one survives another year of this. 

 

Using a top 2 pick on one of these QB's will also get you fired neither of them is going to win you enough games in 2025.

[Mythos27]

1 minute ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

Using a top 2 pick on one of these QB's will also get you fired neither of them is going to win you enough games in 2025.

It's certainly possible but that's only if the QB shows absolutely nothing in 2025. As the GM, you certainly take the chance that QB pans out over the almost guarantee that Levis sinks you again no?  Amy strikes me as the type that would let the regime slide after having picked a new young QB. 

Edited December 29, 2024 by Mythos27

[AussieTitanFan08]

Just now, Mythos27 said:

It's certainly possible but that's only if the QB shows absolutely nothing in 2025. As the GM, you certainly take the chance that QB pans out over the almost guarantee that Levis sinks you again no?

 

Nope I hope I can fleece the Raiders or Giants and trade back.

[rns90]

4 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

Using a top 2 pick on one of these QB's will also get you fired neither of them is going to win you enough games in 2025.

Which is why in the very unlikely scenario he comes free Darnold  in FA should still be option 1 

[VanCityTitan]

1 minute ago, rns90 said:

Which is why in the very unlikely scenario he comes free Darnold  in FA should still be option 1 

Finishing with either 1st or 2md overall...signing Darnold or another vet qb and trading back could be the quickest way to reload a pretty talentless roster.

[ctm]

Even if the Titans decide to draft a QB @ #2, that doesn't mean they will view him as ready to start or want him to start on opening day.  It would still be likely, imo, that they sign someone in free agency to start until the draftee is ready.

[Supernope]

Let him learn behind Levis.  Pick up those nuances of the position 

[TerryBoats]

28 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

As we've learned from Levis though, the propensity for making those head-scratching plays doesn't typically go away at the NFL level. If anything it gets worse. I'd still be OK taking the shot because sometimes guys turn out better than you thought but the red flag is there. 

 Ward is actually good though.  When you throw 5-6 TDs for every head scratching INT you throw, it hurts a lot less.  Levis had 1 good throw for like every 5 embarrassing moments of his.

[TheChosenTitan]

Just now, TerryBoats said:

 Ward is actually good though.  When you throw 5-6 TDs for every head scratching INT you throw, it hurts a lot less.  Levis had 1 good throw for like every 5 embarrassing moments of his.

Only QB I wouldn’t mind taking 

[Mythos27]

20 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

Nope I hope I can fleece the Raiders or Giants and trade back.

I see that logic long-term but as a GM you're unlikely to see the fruits of those picks unless they turn into instant difference-makers at positions impactful enough to overcome Levis. I don't think you can over-come Levis.