Titans Select DT T’Vondre Sweat, Round 2, 38th Overall

[BeedoeLaw]

10 minutes ago, Callidus said:

He then refused to weigh in at the senior bowl who everyone talking about this pick has never heard of. The dude has a weight problem. People are not just making this shit up to dislike the pick.

 

Edit: can he lose the weight? Absolutely, I don't doubt for a second he will be playing weight by day one. I don't trust him at the moment to keep it there though. 

 

Does that mean he won't? No. But there are legitimate concerns here.

That's fair. I understand the concerns. It's just usually guys that big, are that big in high school as well. They tend to have weight issues through out their career. They are just genetically huge. He seems to have gained that weight while simultaneously playing a sport that demands physical fitness. It's just weird to me. Either way, hopefully he can make weight. 

 

 

 

Edited April 29, 2024 by BeedoeLaw

[stormi]

1 hour ago, TheChosenTitan said:

 

 

Well yea, no shit. The Sweat pick pretty much kickstarted the run of IDL, just like with the Latham pick (who wasn't falling past the NYJ at 10).

This braintrust got their pick of the litter essentially twice.

The "WE COULDA TRADED BACK AND GOT HIM" community that had "Matt Miller"s mock draft pinned to the side of their monitor are just off based. 

It's just like how Atlanta could have 'traded back and got Penix' and then we learned post draft that the insiders had no pulse on what was going on and three other teams attempted to trade up to snag him.

 

[IsntLifeFunny]

2 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Saying the Titans took him off their board is different than saying he wasn't draftable imo

Yet when it was said that we don't know what they're going to do and he has elite talent only to be talked shit to what does that mean? 

 

 

[Mythos27]

55 minutes ago, BeedoeLaw said:

That's fair. I understand the concerns. It's just usually guys that big, are that big in high school as well. They tend to have weight issues through out their career. They are just genetically huge. He seems to have gained that weight while simultaneously playing a sport that demands physical fitness. It's just weird to me. Either way, hopefully he can make weight. 

 

 

 

You can out-eat any level of physical activity. One cheeseburger can wipe out hours of working out calorically. Most people that eat their way to enormous weights do so without trying. A single trip to Wendy's is easily a day's worth of food. 

[Guest]

Just now, Mythos27 said:

A single trip to Wendy's is easily a day's worth of food painful diarrhea. 

 

[Starkiller]

1 hour ago, MTownTitan1 said:

Hes a college kid that likes to drink and party. You guys are acting like he’s a dangerous criminal and a thug. He’s basically Gronk. Yall are acting like he’s Aaron Hernandez 

No one is worried about him being a potential murderer, just an immature kid who isn’t dedicated to being an elite athlete. 

[Guest]

25 minutes ago, stormi said:

 

Well yea, no shit. The Sweat pick pretty much kickstarted the run of IDL, just like with the Latham pick (who wasn't falling past the NYJ at 10).

This braintrust got their pick of the litter essentially twice.

The "WE COULDA TRADED BACK AND GOT HIM" community that had "Matt Miller"s mock draft pinned to the side of their monitor are just off based. 

It's just like how Atlanta could have 'traded back and got Penix' and then we learned post draft that the insiders had no pulse on what was going on and three other teams attempted to trade up to snag him.

 

 

Yep. I am all for being critical of any player for what they are. But the who is going where narrative is just information that fans and media do not have a complete picture on. 

 

For Latham and Sweat alike, the tradebacks simply were not there. It would have been great--but these deals were not on the table. 

[IrishTitansFan]

2 hours ago, Mythos27 said:

It's not so much whether he's an alcoholic or not. It's just a question of his judgement. The fact that he ate his way to almost 400 lbs is also a red flag on his judgement. We don't know these guys so we're looking for warning signs of things to come. He's got a couple. We'll see how it plays out but if he ends up being a locker room problem, no one here can act like it came out of nowhere. 

100%. Getting a DUI 3 weeks before the draft shows, at the least, that he's an idiot. We can work with idiots, it would be more worrying if it turned out he just didn't care about his future in football

[Mythos27]

Just now, Bink said:

 

Yep. I am all for being critical of any player for what they are. But the who is going where narrative is just information that fans and media do not have a complete picture on. 

 

For Latham and Sweat alike, the tradebacks simply were not there. It would have been great--but these deals were not on the table. 

Personally, I think that they trade backs where there if we wanted them. The issue is that we loved these two prospects too much to risk them not being there later. Whether the brass turns out to be right to so all in on these guys remains to be seen. But it's pretty clear we REALLY wanted both. That doesn't do much to make me feel strongly one way or the other. Teams often fall in love with players that never work out. It happens. This is one of both drafts where I think both concern and excitement are warranted depending on how optimistic one is willing to be. Some of us are a little jaded from watching risky pick after risky pick crash and burn for predictable reasons so it's harder to focus on the potential positives. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Mythos27 said:

Personally, I think that they trade backs where there if we wanted them. The issue is that we loved these two prospects too much to risk them not being there later. Whether the brass turns out to be right to so all in on these guys remains to be seen. But it's pretty clear we REALLY wanted both. That doesn't do much to make me feel strongly one way or the other. Teams often fall in love with players that never work out. It happens. This is one of both drafts where I think both concern and excitement are warranted depending on how optimistic one is willing to be. Some of us are a little jaded from watching risky pick after risky pick crash and burn for predictable reasons so it's harder to focus on the potential positives. 

 

We could have traded back, sure. It's clear at this point we could not have traded back and gotten these two players. I am critical of people arguing we could have moved back and still picked up Sweat--it's clear now he would have been gone. 

[Starkiller]

Just now, Bink said:

I am critical of people arguing we could have moved back and still picked up Sweat--it's clear now he would have been gone. 

That’s not clear at all. It’s just what Ran said. 
 

But it is clear that the Titans valued him there and felt he was a need so they didn’t want to risk losing him. 

[Mythos27]

3 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said:

100%. Getting a DUI 3 weeks before the draft shows, at the least, that he's an idiot. We can work with idiots, it would be more worrying if it turned out he just didn't care about his future in football

Before anyone freaks out, I'm not calling Sweat Isaiah Wilson but none of us, save for @AussieTitanFan08, had even heard about character concerns with him before he was drafted. After we got him, he was involved in some weird incident involving jumping out of a window which was written off as just being immature. A few months later he gets into a car wreck. The rest is history. I'm just saying that the line between being just a young, immature guy and doing shit that ruins your career is thinner than people think. We have no choice but to give the kid a chance though so here's to hoping he grows up quickly. The NFL is not a league for a little kid mentality. 

[WG53]

2 hours ago, TheChosenTitan said:

 

Lol sure

 

 

[Mythos27]

5 minutes ago, Bink said:

 

We could have traded back, sure. It's clear at this point we could not have traded back and gotten these two players. I am critical of people arguing we could have moved back and still picked up Sweat--it's clear now he would have been gone. 

I wouldn't say it's "clear" Sweat wouldn't have been there but I do think it's murky enough that I understand why we didn't trade down. The future will determine whether we were right to choose him over the potential draft capital. 

Edited April 29, 2024 by Mythos27

[Callidus]

1 minute ago, WG53 said:

Lol sure

 

 

Ya, pics or it didn't happen.  Idk why he wouldn't stick to the we knew there was a DT run about to happen(we kinda started it). 

 

That's a plausible and reasonable explanation. Some asshole to not be named sending you a "man you got us good" text mid draft sounds fishy at best.