Starkiller Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 38 minutes ago, Jamalisms said: That's what they all say In the land of the blind… titanruss, and CreepingDeath 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF_Titan Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 10 hours ago, Jamalisms said: I called it out as a warning sign. People like to deny reality, though. The Titans didn't fail because Holz sucked. They failed because Callahan sucked. Nobody was excited about the Holz hire, but hiring a bigger name for OC wouldn't have changed anything. When you're hiring a coordinator that won't be the primary game planner or play caller you're limiting yourself to a lower tier of candidates. It's why Gus Bradley will likely end up in Arizona instead of Tennessee. ChesterCopperpot1, DCTitan, and Bongo59 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo59 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Saleh is making them same error right now on D. but I do think Saleh has way more experience and juice on D than Cally had on O. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 55 minutes ago, TF_Titan said: The Titans didn't fail because Holz sucked. They failed because Callahan sucked. I used to find this sort of response rather perplexing but I've realized some (many and maybe most) of you are just broken. And, frankly, with this team's history, that should be almost expected. The fact that, even in hindsight, some people are only capable of analyzing from a perspective of failure instead of trying to succeed is telling. Was hiring Holz the biggest reason they failed? I don't give a shit and neither should you. At the end of the day, you're not even asking the right question. Did hiring that dude improve the odds of success? Did it move the team forward? Did it capitalize on the opportunity? Even beyond that - Just because something isn't the biggest factor in failure doesn't mean that a smaller factor failing isn't a problem. Hell, a non-playcalling OC / DC isn't even a small factor. Filling the OC role with an underqualified, unheralded highschool buddy was always a warning sign and the problems it hinted at absolutely proved out over time. The fact that some of you still can't acknowledge that without prevaricating is sad. No longer perplexing. Just sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF_Titan Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, Jamalisms said: Just because something isn't the biggest factor in failure doesn't mean that a smaller factor failing isn't a problem. We don't even know if Holz was a problem. He could have been the next Shannahan and the outcome would have been the same. His resume was on par with what you would expect from a OC that doesn't own game planning or call plays. Jamalisms 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 You're given two resumes. One guy has been working a job for a few years. So has the other guy. Same dept. Same job title. Which one should be promoted? I'm going to suggest the possibility that you should consider promoting the guy who is excelling, who has made a name for himself amongst his peers, who people are familiar with because of exposure stemming from the quality of work he's been doing. I'm going to suggest that you should consider promoting the guy who has the demeanor and presence suited for the new role. I'm going to suggest the possibility that there's a reason Holz's name wasn't put forward by essentially anyone for any related job. I'm going to suggest the possibility that if the only person who thinks he should be promoted is the guy who's been his good friend outside of work for a few decades, that's probably not a good sign he's qualified. Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 On 1/31/2026 at 10:01 PM, kyle021 said: You bitches fail to comprehend i was jusst bullshitting about that but ww genuinely upst for 5 minutes Move on SleepingTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 18 hours ago, Jamalisms said: Don't need one. Saleh is the DC. I'd like to bring in a guy that Saleh could mentor, preferably one that qualifies for comp pics if they get snatched. Alzarius, and titanruss 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnsideKick Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 (edited) Robert Saleh is a good head coach. Edited February 2 by OnsideKick Justafan, and SleepingTitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 13 hours ago, titanruss said: Good. That shit has been terrible since Vrabel came in and thought he knew better than our guy that had been here 30 years. You're talking about Watterson? 1 hour ago, Jamalisms said: The fact that some of you still can't acknowledge that without prevaricating is sad. No longer perplexing. Just sad. Prevaricating? Seriously? Is this on purpose, to force all us neanderthal football fans to have to go scurrying to Merriam-Webster and allow you to twitch your mustache as you chuckle in your own Snidley Whiplash kind of way? Stop that shit. Talk regular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilerTitanHybrid Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 6 minutes ago, OnsideKick said: Conor Orr Grades All 10 NFL Head Coaching Hires for 2026 _________ Robert Saleh is a good head coach. Plain and simple. I understand the frustration of Jets fans who saw his tenure come and go without a playoff berth, but the team’s absolute plummeting that took place after his departure and the visceral reaction from players in the building that day spoke volumes about what he meant to that place. There was so much organizational cleanup that needed to take place before the Jets could take the next step, and the team was a last-minute drive away from beating an eventual 14-win Vikings team before Saleh was let go. Anyway, the combination of Saleh; Brian Daboll as OC for a mobile-friendly, second-year quarterback in Cam Ward; and Gus Bradley (my prediction) at defensive coordinator is about as good as a team in Tennessee’s situation is going to do. Saleh can rev up a sleepy fan base and Daboll will make an offensive structure for Ward that accentuates his big-play ability. While the 49ers’ defense lacked the blessing of the EPA crowd, San Francisco was fourth in Sports Info Solutions’s games lost (and points lost) to injury metric in 2025. And what we saw was that, even with a lack of healthy bodies, the 49ers maintained an identity. The Titans have been yearning for one since Mike Vrabel’s dismissal. Was just reading Yahoo's Frank Schwab's take on the HC and OC hires. Titans got a B+ on both... https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article/nfl-coaching-hire-grades-for-all-10-openings-including-last-2--raiders-klint-kubiak-and-cardinals-mike-lafleur-212707196.html Tennessee Titans: Robert Saleh The Titans job ended up being one that attracted interest of top candidates. And Saleh is a very good hire. Saleh had just a 20-36 record as head coach of the New York Jets, but it has been proven over time that the Jets job is one of the toughest in the NFL. Saleh went to the San Francisco 49ers this past season as their defensive coordinator and had a fantastic season, rebuilding his reputation and putting himself right back in the head-coaching cycle. Saleh’s leadership and his defensive acumen will be an instant boost for a Titans team that has gone 3-14 each of the past two seasons. The big question will be what Saleh does on his offensive staff, considering how important that will be for the development of 2025 No. 1 NFL Draft pick Cam Ward. Grade: B+ --- Tennessee Titans offensive coordinator: Brian Daboll If you buy that Daboll was the driving force behind Josh Allen making the leap to one of the NFL’s elite quarterbacks, when Daboll was the Bills’ offensive coordinator, this is a great hire. Daboll gets to work with Cam Ward, who had some promising moments last season after he was the No. 1 pick of the draft. We know Daboll’s time as Giants head coach didn’t work out great, and seeing Daniel Jones blossom with the Colts after the Giants cut him should lead to some curiosity over whether Allen’s rapid improvement was due more to Daboll’s coaching or Allen putting in the work to fix his flaws. Still, having an coordinator who has experience in grooming a toolsy young quarterback is probably a good move for Tennessee. Grade: B+ titanskick8851 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 30 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: You're talking about Watterson? Prevaricating? Seriously? Is this on purpose, to force all us neanderthal football fans to have to go scurrying to Merriam-Webster and allow you to twitch your mustache as you chuckle in your own Snidley Whiplash kind of way? Stop that shit. Talk regular. Suggestion: Read more books. I'm perhaps too gleefully willing to talk down to you. But I'm not dumbing it down for you. SleepingTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 18 hours ago, TeamRamrod said: Idk where this idea that the side of the ball of a play calling job’s coordinator doesn’t do anything comes from. That role is vital. The head coach doesn’t have the booth view and cant keep track of as much as the coordinator. I don't see any reason for Saleh to change what he did. His defenses were great in NY. I can understand why he wants to get a more experience offensive staff this time - although LaFluer was a good hire - but I'm not sure why he's intent on doing things differently than when he had Top 5 defenses. Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: I don't see any reason for Saleh to change what he did. His defenses were great in NY. I can understand why he wants to get a more experience offensive staff this time - although LaFluer was a good hire - but I'm not sure why he's intent on doing things differently than when he had Top 5 defenses. A fair thing to point out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, OnsideKick said: Robert Saleh is a good head coach. Plain and simple. I understand the frustration of Jets fans who saw his tenure come and go without a playoff berth, but the team’s absolute plummeting that took place after his departure and the visceral reaction from players in the building that day spoke volumes about what he meant to that place. There was so much organizational cleanup that needed to take place before the Jets could take the next step, and the team was a last-minute drive away from beating an eventual 14-win Vikings team before Saleh was let go. Anyway, the combination of Saleh; Brian Daboll as OC for a mobile-friendly, second-year quarterback in Cam Ward; and Gus Bradley (my prediction) at defensive coordinator is about as good as a team in Tennessee’s situation is going to do. Saleh can rev up a sleepy fan base and Daboll will make an offensive structure for Ward that accentuates his big-play ability. While the 49ers’ defense lacked the blessing of the EPA crowd, San Francisco was fourth in Sports Info Solutions’s games lost (and points lost) to injury metric in 2025. And what we saw was that, even with a lack of healthy bodies, the 49ers maintained an identity. The Titans have been yearning for one since Mike Vrabel’s dismissal. Why do you do this? Just post the damn article link and a snippet.... titanskick8851, Supernope, airmcnair22, and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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