titanskick8851 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 AvgJoe, and SuperFreak90 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Kingsbury seems like a good fit. Are ppl not high him here? Tex in a Can 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, NashvilleNinja said: Should've just hired McDaniel. Hiring a defensive minded coach and relying on them to pull in offensive minds is just playing with fire in the modern NFL. And considering you just drafted a QB #1 you would think beefing up THAT side of the ball would be the most important thing. But sure, "leader of men" sounds like a good offensive game plan too I guess. Lol youre panicking and looking at this too narrowedly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Just now, titansfan said: Lol youre panicking and looking at this too narrowedly No he's not. Its a reasonable question. the hope is Saleh came in with a plan that was deep. But his concerns are exactly the right ones for the modern NFL. you seem stuck in the past Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, titansfan said: Lol youre panicking and looking at this too narrowedly The Saleh era hasn't even begun yet so there's nothing to judge. But if Cam is the priority and getting him all the help in the world is the goal then hiring the best offensive mind on the market made the most sense. But we'll see. I'm not shitting on the hire, I'm just skeptical. Being skeptical isn't "panicking". Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: No he's not. Its a reasonable question. the hope is Saleh came in with a plan that was deep. But his concerns are exactly the right ones for the modern NFL. you seem stuck in the past You guys are only concerned about offensive playcalling. We needed someone who was best at managing and leading a team. That is paramount. It is both Borgonzi and Saleh's responsibility to hire the OC and so far nothing has really changed. Its always been pending Daboll not being hired as a HC. Dabol was and is the first choice and I think its a pretty strong possibility that we land him. And the understanding from there is that Daboll likely leaves in one or two years. Which is fine because the organizational goal is to be incredibly fine at developing coaches (think Los Angeles, Baltimore, Detroit, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Tampa, and very soon Houston). The move is that organizations are responsible for developing good coaches, and the head coach is the manager/CEO of the actual team. Its the model we want and personally I think the ideal one. And as long as Daboll instills a good offensive system it can and will continue especially if Ward is who we think he is. Again, do not think so narrowly. tgo, and TylerRoseFan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex in a Can Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 43 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: Kingsbury seems like a good fit. Are ppl not high him here? Did well in Washington with a rookie QB. freakingeek 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle021 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 I cant embed the tweet but i just saw on X that Daboll is the OC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle021 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 It's bullshit nvm titanskick8851, Sirjesse, IsntLifeFunny, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, titansfan said: You guys are only concerned about offensive playcalling. We needed someone who was best at managing and leading a team. That is paramount. It is both Borgonzi and Saleh's responsibility to hire the OC and so far nothing has really changed. Its always been pending Daboll not being hired as a HC. Dabol was and is the first choice and I think its a pretty strong possibility that we land him. And the understanding from there is that Daboll likely leaves in one or two years. Which is fine because the organizational goal is to be incredibly fine at developing coaches (think Los Angeles, Baltimore, Detroit, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Tampa, and very soon Houston). The move is that organizations are responsible for developing good coaches, and the head coach is the manager/CEO of the actual team. Its the model we want and personally I think the ideal one. And as long as Daboll instills a good offensive system it can and will continue especially if Ward is who we think he is. Again, do not think so narrowly. I'mn not thinking narrowly. I am open to Saleh being ok. I think you're ignoring modern trends and tendencie of coaches from the DC side of the house. The "CEO" coach is not a real thing. The Head coach sets a core philosophy and game management. There is a reason Tomlin, Harbhaugh and Mcdermott- were all let go. None of them were succeeding in the playoffs. But everyone's background (like having CEO's with a CFO background vs Marketing background- effects the philosophy of the org. Historically, coaches from the defensive side prioritizes defense, dont take as many chances (going for it) on offense, tend to prioritize ball security, running the ball and not "letting mistakes" beat you- etc. And those coaches for the past decade or so- have not been winning in the playoffs and getting to the SB. Even if it happens this year- it will be an exception. Maybe saleh breaks that trend but its a trend for reason... a trend that's been over a decade. Mabye Cam will be good enough to offset a conservative HC... but that's asking a lot. Ironically - you're being very narrow minded in what you're looking at bc you hvae romanticied the role of the head coach Edited January 25 by Pragidealist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 56 minutes ago, kyle021 said: It's bullshit nvm No worries, man. No one's replacing your namesake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post titanruss Posted January 26 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 26 If it's between Kingsbury and Daboll, I want Kliff Tex in a Can, Pragidealist, Sirjesse, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 @oldschool what’s the word on Kingsbury out of DC? I feel like I remember you saying the firing wasn’t justified. CamsTitans 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldschool Posted January 26 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 26 Just now, AvgJoe said: @oldschool what’s the word on Kingsbury out of DC? I feel like I remember you saying the firing wasn’t justified. The players and specifically Daniels weren't happy. I cooled on Kingsbury as the year went on. Hes a good OC but requires a very specific skillset from his QB. I don't think its a good fit for Ward. Plus he calls shotgun 95% of the time. TF_Titan, AvgJoe, Justafan, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleytolar Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) Normally, NFL coaches contracts DO HAVE offset provisions. They don't seem to be required but it is normal. What's more, there is usually an incumbency on the fired coach to seek new employment so as to relieve his former team of some or all of their financial obligation. There you go @japan since you didn't seem to know the answer either and could only muster one of your many stupid WTFs at someone even asking the question-- one which you offer no answer to. Did you misplace your copy of Daboll's contract? Edited January 26 by charleytolar japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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