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  1. Of key importance is that almost nobody thought Brady would be any good (forget approaching Manning) whereas everyone thinks Bowers will be a great and immediate contributor.
  2. Facts make no sense to oldschool? I pointed out that BOTH the Chiefs and the Niners reached the Super Bowl with top contributors at your key positions (QB, WR, CB, OT) who were not taken at the very top of the draft. Mahomes being the outlier of course. Then some of the key players that helped these team get to the Super Bowl (Niners in particular) played positions you deemed less important: Christian McCaffrey (RB), George Kittle (TE), and Fred Warner (ILB) for example. Brock Purdy as Mr. Irrelevant is a cherry on the top. The disaster of Lance is just part of the puzzle so don't try to use him as a distraction. In no way was he my focus so you are being highly disingenuous there. Can you deny that the Niners made the Super Bowl despite 6 of the 9 first round picks in the past 7 years have not participated in the recent successful Niner seasons. Is that a deliberate strategy?!!! The dominant Niner contributors played positions you say the de-value; seems like they are succeeding in spite of themselves. What do you think you are defending? Maybe Shanahan is that good to make up for that deficiency. Can you disprove that or do you just insist on making self-serving empty proclamations?! Address that fact rather than making ad hominem attacks and self-declaring victory in a vain attempt to end the discussion by not participating.
  3. Address my points rather than chicken-shit smiley faces... LOL.
  4. Their draft history was about as bad as J-Rob's.... LOL. Talk about their failed draft strategy all you want; I was talking about with whom and how their Super Bowl team was constructed ... in actuality that nearly won them the game. This is far more important than their failed theory of drafting... which as YOU accidentally pointed out backfired on them bigtime. 3 contributors out of 9 Round One picks in 7 drafts calls for a new strategy! Still can't fathom how you thought that proved anything other than bad drafting. Keep deluding yourself by moving the goalposts...
  5. Whatever, oldfart.... Did I ever tell you the one about the stupidity of J-Rob to give away three premium picks to move up a handful of spots to get Jack Conklin? He's not even a LT; he's a rightie. The Chiefs got Mahomes for about as much, but moved up 15 spots in Round One. Makes you wanna cry. What you call stupid was right-on at the time it happened and has never dulled in its accuracy. Yeah, I know you don't like being reminded, but that is different altogether....
  6. Peace? What bullshit coming from you. You are far and away the most disagreeable person back here. You have 0 tolerance for any viewpoints other than your own. I will give you this: you can skate backwards!
  7. The issue is not whether or not they do, it is "should they?" Except for getting to the Super Bowl, too many of those top picks have stunk up the joint. Are the three 1st Rounders wasted on moving up to draft a QB who is not even on the team anymore part of the formula for getting to the Super Bowl? I think not. "For the most part?" Bosa was a Top 5, Aiyuk was 1-25 or so, Deebo was 2nd Round. The WR who did it for them, Jauan Jennings, was a 7th Rounder. It seems like the Niners got their in spite of their drafting strategy. That HAS TO MEAN they found other contributors in spots other than the celebrated selections early in the draft.
  8. Out of those positions, for the Niners only Aiyuk and Bosa were First Round picks. You're not celebrating the WASTE of three First Rounders on Trey Lance as contributory to their place in the Super Bowl. For the Chiefs, only Mahomes and the EDGE George K were First Rounder: the QB at 1-10, the CB at 1-21, and the EDGE at 1-30 The Niners QB was Mr. Irrelevant, Aiyuk was a late First Rounder and Deebo was a Second Rounder, the four CBs except for McDuffie were not top picks, the EDGE players except for George K were not top picks (and him barely), neither LT was acquired as a top pick-- FAs for both teams I do believe. What's really mind-boggling is that you are so enamored of your theory that you don't see the reality on the field... or the roster!
  9. Your question posed was "do they have other needs" not are they a good team. The five teams that took those TEs relatively high were in order the Bills, Lions, Raiders, Packers, Cowboys, and Jaguars. Except for the Bills and Cowboys, most of those others were at best viewed as comers and so a season or more away. Lions and Packers got better. Raiders and Jags floundered still.
  10. There are busts at every position. I think it is easy to pick on TEs because so few have been taken in the First so it's easy to summarize.
  11. I don't believe I made any comment about the OT I "like" being a bust. I've said that I have a hard time seeing around Alt for the Titans. Not going to take the time to do that TE study but it is a fact that that many TEs went sooner than most would think possible. Maybe the appreciation for TEs is escalating what with the impact of guys like Kelce, Kittle, Andrews, and LaPorta.
  12. R-i-i-i-i-i-ight. The two teams battling it out in the Super Bowl did so with dominating players either: 1) taken later in the draft than they "should have" to make such a difference or 2) played positions that you deemed "of secondary importance" Keep up! The Niners had 9 first-round picks in the last 7 years. They pissed away three of them on Trey Lance and only 3 of the others are still on the team... yet they made it to the Super Bowl. Yeah, having a "great" coach helps but it's mostly about the players and somehow the Niners did it without a significant contribution from the First Round of the Draft. Explain that...
  13. Citing facts is not dumb; it is resourceful. You have your theories which don't match up to reality, so there's that. Your facts disprove your precious theories, so do my facts.
  14. THIS is you evidence?!? Nine First Round picks from the lasts seven drafts and only 3 have contributed to the 49er run as of late. What exactly is it that you are trying to prove about the primacy of Round One picks over all others?
  15. LOL. Trends? We just talked about two teams in the Super Bowl who "broke" all your rules about where the difference-making players are taken. Again, the top Chiefs WR was Round 2, their LT was taken Round 2 by another franchise. The Niners top-rated LT was gotten from another team for a 3rd and a 4th. Bosa was a highly-drafted EDGE but Karlaftis lasted until the end of Round One. One Chief's cornerback was pick 1-22 and the other was a 4th Rounder and now might be a highly coveted FA. These are facts. Stop moving the goal posts.
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