oldschool Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 Just now, TeamRamrod said: No he doesn’t. He’s a rookie offensive lineman. And one who changed positions. If you’re talking about positional value, I don’t give a fuck with the state of this roster. Nonsense. taking an OG that high even with the roster issues means he has to be all pro caliber and the sooner the better. He hasn't been to date so hopefully that changes but call a spade a spade, Skoronski hasn't been as good advertised. IsntLifeFunny, Mythos27, and ChesterCopperpot1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 The OL gets as fucked over by the coaching as the skill players do.....and the OL coaching has been bad as well. I do think Skoronski is beat up some - he had a stretch there of really good play and playing next to two turnstiles doesn't help either. IowaOiler 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, oldschool said: Nonsense. taking an OG that high even with the roster issues means he has to be all pro caliber and the sooner the better. He hasn't been to date so hopefully that changes but call a spade a spade, Skoronski hasn't been as good advertised. It's not that simple, like he said he switched positions. It's not like just because guard is seen as the easier place to play he will immediately be good at it. He also had surgery and missed 4 weeks. He is playing next to the worst LT spot in the nfl and his center isn't very good. On top of that he has said himself there has been a lot of miscommunication on the line which is likely brewers fault as well. He deserves some fault as well but trying to act like he is just underperforming and it's him is a gross injustice to his situation Doogie, prometheus, DCTitan, and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 Just now, oldschool said: Nonsense. taking an OG that high even with the roster issues means he has to be all pro caliber and the sooner the better. He hasn't been to date so hopefully that changes but call a spade a spade, Skoronski hasn't been as good advertised. Still half-assing your analysis of NFL offensive line play and development, eh? oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 Dillard and Brewer have been disasters on two levels. Bad players and both were over paid when the team had very limited cap space. And for those who defend Vrabel by saying he has a bad roster then convince us that he didn't have a big role in signing/playing both guys. Which begs the question, why do you want Vrabel to have any role in rebuilding next year's OL? Why? IsntLifeFunny, IowaOiler, and ChesterCopperpot1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ctm said: Dillard and Brewer have been disasters on two levels. Bad players and both were over paid when the team had very limited cap space. And for those who defend Vrabel by saying he has a bad roster then convince us that he didn't have a big role in signing/playing both guys. Which begs the question, why do you want Vrabel to have any role in rebuilding next year's OL? Why? What was your solution for left tackle this past off-season? Not defending Vrabel necessarily. Just curious Edited December 20, 2023 by TeamRamrod bizzyeddie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, Callidus said: It's not that simple, like he said he switched positions. It's not like just because guard is seen as the easier place to play he will immediately be good at it. He also had surgery and missed 4 weeks. He is playing next to the worst LT spot in the nfl and his center isn't very good. On top of that he has said himself there has been a lot of miscommunication on the line which is likely brewers fault as well. He deserves some fault as well but trying to act like he is just underperforming and it's him is a gross injustice to his situation okay.... OG is way easier to play than LT. The fact he's struggled a bit at OG has nothing to do with him being moved inside. This happens every year with college tackles being moved inside because of limitations at the NFL level. Skoronski was slated as an OG by nearly everyone leading up the draft for a reason. The fact he's been decent most of the year is a fact and it doesnt require you making excuses for it. He was billed as the most NFL ready OL in the draft which is why he went as high as he did as an OG prospect. Its okay to admit he hasn't lived up to expectations. Yes he's not 100% at fault for that playing next to scrubs all season. Hopefully he'll get there. ChesterCopperpot1, Justafan, and IsntLifeFunny 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 31 minutes ago, TeamRamrod said: Still half-assing your analysis of NFL offensive line play and development, eh? Just because you know OL play doesn't make you infallible. Its a fact Skoronski has to be more than just good to justify taking a non premium position that high in the draft. I'm sorry you can't admit he hasn't lived up to it so far. That doesn't make him a bust, a strawman lol, it simply means he hasn't been as good as expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeater Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, TeamRamrod said: And I guess discontent makes people shut off their brains Have you been outside lately? Sadly, having brains is no longer a requirement for society. prometheus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, oldschool said: okay.... OG is way easier to play than LT. The fact he's struggled a bit at OG has nothing to do with him being moved inside. This happens every year with college tackles being moved inside because of limitations at the NFL level. Skoronski was slated as an OG by nearly everyone leading up the draft for a reason. The fact he's been decent most of the year is a fact and it doesnt require you making excuses for it. He was billed as the most NFL ready OL in the draft which is why he went as high as he did as an OG prospect. Its okay to admit he hasn't lived up to expectations. Yes he's not 100% at fault for that playing next to scrubs all season. Hopefully he'll get there. I don't have any expectations, asking me about how he has been may as well be a question about how Bruce Lee and the 3 stooges would do in a fight against 4 ufc fighters. Edit: I didn't use Bruce Lee to mean he is great in this was just the first guy that popped into my head when I thought of fighting. Edited December 20, 2023 by Callidus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, TeamRamrod said: Some titans fans are really calling Skoronski a bust?! When did the titans fan base become so fucking annoying? It seems ten times worse this season than normal. I think that's the nature of the NFL fan these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, oldschool said: Nonsense. taking an OG that high even with the roster issues means he has to be all pro caliber and the sooner the better. He hasn't been to date so hopefully that changes but call a spade a spade, Skoronski hasn't been as good advertised. It used to take 3 years to tell if a player was going to be good.... now it takes half a season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) As someone who said that people were being ridiculous in thinking Sko would be an "all-pro guard" pretty much right away, I would love nothing more than to take a victory lap. However, Skoronski has been set up for failure every step of the way. From having to play between absolute bums, to playing a position he's never played, to the appendix issue, it's hard for me to come down very hard on him. He's had some concerning reps but also some very good ones. As a guard, I think he'll be fine. We still made a mistake there but I have hopes he'll make the best of it for us. Edited December 20, 2023 by Mythos27 prometheus, pat, Starkiller, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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