IrishTitansFan Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 9 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Until the Titans break away from this run first/ball security/play good defense philosophy this franchise will be mired in mediocrity. This team desperately needs more creative innovative offensive minds on the coaching staff. The Titans had one of the most well thought of offensive minds in the NFL on the staff last year. Guess what? It was the same thing. The Titans need a good QB Mythos27, Number9, and rns90 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: The Titans had one of the most well thought of offensive minds in the NFL on the staff last year. Guess what? It was the same thing. The Titans need a good QB Do you want Vrabel/Arthur Smith being responsible for developing the QBOTF. Edited November 5, 2019 by AussieTitanFan08 ctm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Do you want Vrabel/Arthur Smith being responsible for developing the QBOTF. Did I say that? Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 I’d be good with Downing developing the qb.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 The Titans have some issues on offense to figure out the rest of the season. Priority one is Tannehill, should he be signed and should he be the starting QB in 2020? They'll have to decide this before the draft. Unless the Titans end up with 4 or 5 wins I don't think they'll be in position to get one of the top QBs. Next they have to decide what to do with Derrick Henry. I'd personally move on to a more well rounded complete RB. Robinson seems to like him more than that. The Titans also have to decide after the season about Corey Davis and the 5th year option. WTF are they going to do here? Either Robinson is a moron for drafting him 5th or the staff has grossly underutilized him. I lean towards both, you don't draft a WR in the top 5 and if you do then use him, feature him. They also have to likely sign Conklin. Can they afford to have another hole at OT? Especially considering Lewan looks like an average at best LT w/o the juice. I'd probably sign Tannehill, let Henry walk. I've already said I'd love to draft D'Andre Swift, There are better RBs in free agency anyway. I'd try and trade Davis and sign Conklin to an extension barring a collapse down the stretch. They may even have to franchise Conklin. Thrill, titanskick8851, and rns90 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 I personally think a complete reboot with a new starting QB and coaching staff is unlikely at least at this point. A band aid on the current situation for 2020 seems likely. The problem with that approach is how does the PR staff sell hope to the fan base next year? What's the marketing strategy? Given the current trendline, the choice for AAS is whether she wants to buy out 3 years of Vrabel's contract or likely see a further deterioration of the fan base. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, ctm said: The problem with that approach is how does the PR staff sell hope to the fan base next year? What's the marketing strategy? This is what could force them to draft a 1st round QB. BTW, how this season ends could dictate how much a change there is in 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 If this team collapses, and I personally believe it will, Robinson is putting his own job on the line sticking with Vrabel next year. One thing I will say is Robinson is quick to move on from mistakes. Sunday had to piss him off, it looked like the team had not even practiced. Inconsistent and Undisciplined should be the tag line of this team. Titans279, and DCTitan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 Robinson is just as culpable in this as Vrabel. Look at the ROI on his high draft picks, extensions, and free agent signings in totality. Add in the coaching hires. rns90, and bosss50 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 I don’t think JRob is nearly to blame as Vrabel and Art Smith. I hate to think of CD going somewhere else, but if Art isn’t going to use him, then we might as well get compensation. It’s criminal to not use him with as much talent as he has. prometheus, and Mythos27 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenj Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 As of right now, I'd re-sign Tannehill. He's a guy you can win with right now, and I don't want Vrabel developing a rookie QB. Draft a new QB when Vrabel is fired and we hire an offensive minded coach. I don't believe JRob has the balls to fire Vrabel yet -- his future is tied to him. And Vrabel has some answering to do himself. He's the one who drafted and signed this OL. He signed Lewis and didn't upgrade. He took C Davis #5 overall when many of us said that it wasn't worth that slot. He had a haul from the trade back and a few years into it, he's made some really bad decisions and some really good decisions (Simmons looks good, Byard, J. Brown). He seems to do better in the middle rounds. Mythos27, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, StephenIsLegend said: I don’t think JRob is nearly to blame as Vrabel and Art Smith. I hate to think of CD going somewhere else, but if Art isn’t going to use him, then we might as well get compensation. It’s criminal to not use him with as much talent as he has. True but JRob interviewed 3 candidates for the coaching staff: one was Vrabel, the other LeFleur, and the third a possible Rooney rule candidate. Jrob had many other good options to choose from like Reich, McDaniels, Patricia, Arians, etc, etc. He had tunnel vision and wanted Vrabel. JRob is absolutely to blame for that. I think he’s a great talent evaluator and should have the chance to pick talent for another coach if they decide Vrabel is a failure. But he should have a very limited role in picking the coach. That will still totally destabilize the franchise so I’m all for keeping Vrabel if at all possible. Titans279 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 Another issue moving forward: Stop. Sucking. Country. Music's. Pecker. I don't care if we are in the Country mecca of the world. There's other kinds of music in the panacea to fill that need and plenty of it is represented in the general era. I'm not even really a fan of these guys, but Kings Of Leon for example live right down the fucking road. They'd at least be something different. Plus it'd be funny to watch the Midday180 guys fill the stadium with baby batter to see their boys out there making noise. CreepingDeath, h4t, and El Guapo 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLanceALot Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 hours ago, OILERMAN said: The Titans have some issues on offense to figure out the rest of the season. Priority one is Tannehill, should he be signed and should he be the starting QB in 2020? They'll have to decide this before the draft. Unless the Titans end up with 4 or 5 wins I don't think they'll be in position to get one of the top QBs. Next they have to decide what to do with Derrick Henry. I'd personally move on to a more well rounded complete RB. Robinson seems to like him more than that. The Titans also have to decide after the season about Corey Davis and the 5th year option. WTF are they going to do here? Either Robinson is a moron for drafting him 5th or the staff has grossly underutilized him. I lean towards both, you don't draft a WR in the top 5 and if you do then use him, feature him. They also have to likely sign Conklin. Can they afford to have another hole at OT? Especially considering Lewan looks like an average at best LT w/o the juice. I'd probably sign Tannehill, let Henry walk. I've already said I'd love to draft D'Andre Swift, There are better RBs in free agency anyway. I'd try and trade Davis and sign Conklin to an extension barring a collapse down the stretch. They may even have to franchise Conklin. I think we draft a QB regardless and still sign Tannehill to be the bridge guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted November 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 14 hours ago, Nash said: 1) Moving on from Mariota ..done 2) Establish a passing based or more balanced offense, move away from a power running offense 3) Establish a defensive philosophy and solid pass defense If you overlook the reasons for many of the problems on offense, I guess the simplest solution is fire the coach. But there a little daisy chain that got us to where we are. I liked all of what Nash says. Move away from a power running offense. We just signed Saffold to improve the running offense in order to achieve success with the planned offense for Mariota. Then when the key component fails people want to start tearing out everything, too. The OL went from a strength to a weakness because Lewan got busted and he's no longer playing at an elite level, plus we have Davis starting w/Douglas at center. Then you add in Smith calling plays who was only acceptable because he could keep Mariota from learning a new offense and you get what we got. Again, maybe Vrabel isn't the guy, but who could have done way better with what he's had to work with? We scream for a new QB. The replacement looks decent in two games we win. Then we lose ONE game and it's time to fire the HC, maybe replace the GM. bosss50 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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