Titans Offseason Discussion Thread

[Justafan]

6 minutes ago, scine09 said:

Fisher was old school and thought that running backs play a certain way.  I think Johnson could have been used more effectively later in his career.  Of course Fisher wasn't even there at that point.

George had seasons with 45+ catches. CJ, despite not being a receiving back had 500 yards in his 2500 yard season. I think Fisher knew how to use those guys just fine. 

[CreepingDeath]

1 hour ago, Legaltitan said:

That's a ridiculously high standard. Very few RBs in the history of the league could do that while also being a top runner from the LOS.

 

I don't really care because CJ was and will always be one of my favorite Titans regardless of his receiving talents. But it seems to me if you compare him to other RBs who were great in the running game, his receiving holds up ok. Other than all time greats like Faulk, Tomlinson, Thurman Thomas, and Walter Peyton, I think CJ's receiving stacks up ok amongst guys that were great in the traditional running game.

Was the Thurmanator and W. Peyton ever used lined up wide?  Were offenses in the 80s and 90s really thinking like that?  

[Legaltitan]

9 minutes ago, CreepingDeath said:

Was the Thurmanator and W. Peyton ever used lined up wide?  Were offenses in the 80s and 90s really thinking like that?  

Pretty sure Thurman Thomas lined up all over the place, but it's hard to remember. I was pretty young back then and didn't watch football the same way I do now. Peyton I have no idea - his heyday is before my time. I just know that both of them were good in the passing game.

Edited 4 hours ago by Legaltitan

[CreepingDeath]

13 minutes ago, Legaltitan said:

Pretty sure Thurman Thomas lined up all over the place, but it's hard to remember. I was pretty young back then and didn't watch football the same way I do now. Peyton I have no idea - his heyday is before my time. I just know that both of them were good in the passing game.

I was just curious and also trying to make sure goalposts aren't moving to fit agendas.  Saying that "this" is the standard to being a good receiving RB but not holding to it for all RBs is disingenuous.  

[Tex in a Can]

2 hours ago, CreepingDeath said:

Was the Thurmanator and W. Peyton ever used lined up wide?  Were offenses in the 80s and 90s really thinking like that?  

Thomas was deadly on the swing pass if I remember correctly. yup, I was off, Thomas was a legit threat down the sidelines.

Edited 1 hour ago by Tex in a Can

[CreepingDeath]

3 minutes ago, Tex in a Can said:

Thomas was deadly on the swing pass if I remember correctly.

Are swing passes considered a valid contribution to the passing game for a RB? 

If CJ caught too many swing passes, they probably don't count.  

[scine09]

Johnson didn't catch enough swing passes IMO.

[Bongo59]

I think Fisher misused CJ a lot.  His rookie season he ran between the tackles.  Fish was a terrible coach

[oldschool]

2 hours ago, scine09 said:

I think they tried to make him a between the tackles runner when his skill set should have been more of a hybrid guy.  They ran him like he was Eddie George.  It was almost like Fisher thought every running back needed to do the exact same thing.

 

lol. CJ was a great between the tackles runner until he got paid and laid down. his speed made everyone think he should have been used like Faulk and more on the perimeter but that actually wasn't his game.

[Justafan]

I’ve heard it all now. Jeff Fisher got CJ to the 7th most yards in a season all time and Derrick Mason to the second most all purpose yards of all time but is also apparently a moron who couldn’t figure out how best to use his players. 
 

 

[rns90]

10 minutes ago, Justafan said:

I’ve heard it all now. Jeff Fisher got CJ to the 7th most yards in a season all time and Derrick Mason to the second most all purpose yards of all time but is also apparently a moron who couldn’t figure out how best to use his players. 
 

 

Despite what is written here in this thread , Fisher knew how to use players on offense here, he just was conservative in terms of game management etc.

 

 

 

[oldschool]

lol tell me you never watched Thurman Thomas play without telling me you never watched him play...

[TeamRamrod]

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[CreepingDeath]

10 minutes ago, oldschool said:

lol tell me you never watched Thurman Thomas play without telling me you never watched him play...

Why?

[Callidus]

4 hours ago, Justafan said:

Like I said, you could use him on screens and sometimes he could sneak out to the flat or something like that and if you could get him the ball in the open field he was deadly. 
 

He wasn’t lining up out wide, running routes, and making contested catches or anything like that though. 

He actually lined up wide a few times. He had that play where he motioned outside and no1 covered him, he also has a go route where he caught a great over the shoulder ball on the sideline. 

 

Wasn't a usual thing but he could.