Titans Offseason Discussion Thread

[Justafan]

6 minutes ago, Legaltitan said:

CJ was no Marshall Faulk in the passing game, but I honestly remember him being a pretty effective weapon. Maybe it's just rose-colored glasses, or I'm just remembering a couple of screens he took to the house. But in my memory he was a passing game asset. 

Like I said, you could use him on screens and sometimes he could sneak out to the flat or something like that and if you could get him the ball in the open field he was deadly. 
 

He wasn’t lining up out wide, running routes, and making contested catches or anything like that though. 

[Bongo59]

18 minutes ago, Legaltitan said:

CJ was no Marshall Faulk in the passing game, but I honestly remember him being a pretty effective weapon. Maybe it's just rose-colored glasses, or I'm just remembering a couple of screens he took to the house. But in my memory he was a passing game asset. 

CJ had no OC and no QB his entire tenure.  If he did he would have hit his potential based on the his talent. 

[Legaltitan]

12 minutes ago, Justafan said:

 

He wasn’t lining up out wide, running routes, and making contested catches or anything like that though. 

That's a ridiculously high standard. Very few RBs in the history of the league could do that while also being a top runner from the LOS.

 

I don't really care because CJ was and will always be one of my favorite Titans regardless of his receiving talents. But it seems to me if you compare him to other RBs who were great in the running game, his receiving holds up ok. Other than all time greats like Faulk, Tomlinson, Thurman Thomas, and Walter Peyton, I think CJ's receiving stacks up ok amongst guys that were great in the traditional running game.

[Justafan]

4 minutes ago, Legaltitan said:

That's a ridiculously high standard. Very few RBs in the history of the league could do that while also being a top runner from the LOS.

 

I don't really care because CJ was and will always be one of my favorite Titans regardless of his receiving talents. But it seems to me if you compare him to other RBs who were great in the running game, his receiving holds up ok. Other than all time greats like Faulk, Tomlinson, Thurman Thomas, and Walter Peyton, I think CJ's receiving stacks up ok amongst guys that were great in the traditional running game.

He was a home run hitter who took screens to the house which heavily inflates his receiving stats. That’s a poor way to judge his impact to the passing game. 
 

Just my two cents. I get it that you see it differently. 

[scine09]

Johnson actually could catch the ball.  Watch this catch at 28:30:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAHS9TEclZM

 

 

[Supernope]

huh, Chris Johnson talk 

[oldschool]

1 minute ago, scine09 said:

Johnson actually could catch the ball.  Watch this catch at 28:30:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAHS9TEclZM

 

 

 

lol is that a joke? How is that some great catch. he bodies the ball. More importantly how the hell did you recall that catch from that game and then know when it happened within the game? There is something wrong with you...

 

[Nash]

IIRC, our offensive line in that era were much better run blockers, and often were drafted in later rounds ( except Lewan, and Warmack) mobility was not their strong suit. And neither was passing

[Justafan]

Of all the things I thought I might argue on this site, convincing people that CJ wasn’t a great receiving back… Seems like such an obvious thing that it never crossed my mind. 

[FireInTheHole]

21 hours ago, IowaOiler said:

 

Yeah, no shit....but if you're not here to win the Super Bowl, what the fuck are we doing?  

I mean, I get that.. but to completely discount a great player because they never won a Super Bowl is a silly expectation. 

[scine09]

29 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

lol is that a joke? How is that some great catch. he bodies the ball. More importantly how the hell did you recall that catch from that game and then know when it happened within the game? There is something wrong with you...

 

The second part I knew he made a great catch that season so I went back at the play by play, found the game and then found it on YouTube.  I actually thought it was the Tampa game, I went through that one but it wasn't.  

 

In all he wasn't a great receiver.  But he could do it if asked.

Edited 8 hours ago by scine09

[Justafan]

8 minutes ago, scine09 said:

The second part I knew he made a great catch that season so I went back at the play by play, found the game and then found it on YouTube.  I actually thought it was the Tampa game, I went through that one but it wasn't.  

 

In all he wasn't a great receiver.  But he could do it if asked.

Wouldn’t them not asking him to do it be a pretty obvious indicator that he wasn’t great at it? 

[scine09]

1 minute ago, Justafan said:

Wouldn’t them not asking him to do it be a pretty obvious indicator that he wasn’t great at it? 

I think they tried to make him a between the tackles runner when his skill set should have been more of a hybrid guy.  They ran him like he was Eddie George.  It was almost like Fisher thought every running back needed to do the exact same thing.

[Justafan]

10 minutes ago, scine09 said:

I think they tried to make him a between the tackles runner when his skill set should have been more of a hybrid guy.  They ran him like he was Eddie George.  It was almost like Fisher thought every running back needed to do the exact same thing.

Your theory is that Fisher, a guy who was paid millions of dollars to coach football, took them to the Super Bowl, and coached a season where CJ ran for 2000 yards, was such a moron he couldn’t figure out that CJ was meant to play in a different style?
 

[scine09]

9 minutes ago, Justafan said:

Your theory is that Fisher, a guy who was paid millions of dollars to coach football, took them to the Super Bowl, and coached a season where CJ ran for 2000 yards, was such a moron he couldn’t figure out that CJ was meant to play in a different style?
 

Fisher was old school and thought that running backs play a certain way.  I think Johnson could have been used more effectively later in his career.  Of course Fisher wasn't even there at that point.