Amy Adams Strunk likely behind stripping Brian Callahan of his play-calling(Terry McCormick)

[airmcnair22]

1 hour ago, oldschool said:

@airmcnair22 I can't fathom how anyone can think an owner shouldn't have say in firing a HC or be involved in org level decisions. This fantasy world some of you live in is crazy talk. As I said earlier in the week, everyone reports to someone who can overrule them unless you are the owner and even then, the NFL has oversight on certain decisions. The concept that an owner should just hire someone and let them run everything otherwise they are considered a meddler is fan fiction. 

 

Now I will say if she is reaching down into day to day operations like who to play, who calls plays, game plans, etc... Thats clearly in micromanager territory and a bad thing.

 

No one’s saying the owner shouldn’t have a say. Obviously, every decision ultimately runs through her — that’s how it works. The issue isn’t that she made the call, it’s how and why she made it.

 

If the decision was driven by emotion or embarrassment rather than football reasoning, that’s a problem. From what Breer and others have reported, this wasn’t a move the football people — Brinker or Borgonzi — were planning to make midseason. That suggests her confidence in her own instincts overrode the process she put in place.

 

Owners should absolutely be involved at a high level, but when the people you hired to run football operations are being overruled because of a bad loss or outside perception, that’s when involvement turns into meddling.

[ChesterCopperpot1]

2 hours ago, airmcnair22 said:

 

No one’s arguing that the firing wasn’t deserved — it’s the way it was handled that’s concerning. Amy isn’t letting football people make football decisions.

 

If you listen to that Albert Breer interview with Stillman, it’s not a good look. He basically confirms what some local reporters have been hinting at — that this was a reactionary move. Apparently, Amy had a large group with her at the Raiders game, and the team’s performance that day heavily influenced her decision. That lines up eerily well with how Robinson’s firing went down.

 

Breer also mentioned that the original plan was to move on from Callahan after the season, but everything flipped after that Raiders game. I don’t think it takes a genius to realize Brinker and Borgonzi didn’t just change their minds overnight. It also explains why it took a bit to sort out who the interim coach would even be.

 

I’ve been pretty neutral about Amy’s involvement up to this point because, honestly, every firing so far has been justified. But this time, it feels like emotion drove the decision — not football logic.

 

And this is exactly what many fans have feared. In the offseason, Brinker was all over local media preaching patience. But deep down, we all knew that if Amy wasn’t happy with what she saw on the field, it wouldn’t matter what Brinker wanted.

 

It’s getting harder to dismiss the stories about her not wanting to be embarrassed. One or two reports, fine — but now multiple sources are saying the same thing. It really feels like our owner is trending toward being the same kind of meddler her dad was, and that’s a scary thought.

So they planned to move on from Callahan after the season. 

 

Instead they move the timeline up 11 weeks and move on from him now.

 

Why is this a huge deal? The end result is the same: Callahan is fired. 

 

Now if she truly mandated that Callahan give up playcalling then that is bad. Also kinda proves why Callahan isn't a leader because a true leader wouldve said no. A true leader woulve said if you don't like what I am doing then fire me. 

[TerryBoats]

Just now, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

So they planned to move on from Callahan after the season. 

 

Instead they move the timeline up 11 weeks and move on from him now.

 

Why is this a huge deal? The end result is the same: Callahan is fired. 

 

Now if she truly mandated that Callahan give up playcalling then that is bad. Also kinda proves why Callahan isn't a leader because a true leader wouldve said no. A true leader woulve said if you don't like what I am doing then fire me. 

Because we want the next HC to be good.  Teams which fire their coaches and GMs midseason are typically toxic to any quality HC candidate.  

[ChesterCopperpot1]

1 minute ago, TerryBoats said:

Because we want the next HC to be good.  Teams which fire their coaches and GMs midseason are typically toxic to any quality HC candidate.  

It's 1 of 32. It is going to attract a quality candidate. The bears fired Matt Eberflus midseason and hired Ben Johnson. 

 

This whole notion of "no one is going to want the job" is bullshit. 

[Cookie]

I believe Amy should not be involved in Football decisions. However if Brinker and the GM cannot recognize that Callahan was not the right coach , I have serious concerns about their judgment 

[oldschool]

4 minutes ago, airmcnair22 said:

 

No one’s saying the owner shouldn’t have a say. Obviously, every decision ultimately runs through her — that’s how it works. The issue isn’t that she made the call, it’s how and why she made it.

 

If the decision was driven by emotion or embarrassment rather than football reasoning, that’s a problem. From what Breer and others have reported, this wasn’t a move the football people — Brinker or Borgonzi — were planning to make midseason. That suggests her confidence in her own instincts overrode the process she put in place.

 

Owners should absolutely be involved at a high level, but when the people you hired to run football operations are being overruled because of a bad loss or outside perception, that’s when involvement turns into meddling.

 

Dude... The Titans are historically bad getting crushed by bad teams every week, and getting worse every week. if AAS had had enough because of the product on the field, thats not her being emotional. Thats her saying I've lost confidence Callahan can turn this around and if Brinker/Borgonzi weren't there yet, I'm glad she overruled them. The decision needed to be made. That doesn't mean it was reactionary, not well thought out etc...

[oldschool]

4 minutes ago, TerryBoats said:

Because we want the next HC to be good.  Teams which fire their coaches and GMs midseason are typically toxic to any quality HC candidate.  

 

you are just making shit up now.

[airmcnair22]

6 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

So they planned to move on from Callahan after the season. 

 

Instead they move the timeline up 11 weeks and move on from him now.

 

Why is this a huge deal? The end result is the same: Callahan is fired. 

 

Now if she truly mandated that Callahan give up playcalling then that is bad. Also kinda proves why Callahan isn't a leader because a true leader wouldve said no. A true leader woulve said if you don't like what I am doing then fire me. 

 

People keep making this a black-and-white thing — “he deserved to be fired, so who cares when.” It actually does matter. The issue isn’t that he got fired, it’s who made the call and why. If the football guys wanted to wait and ownership overrode them out of emotion, that’s not leadership — that’s meddling.

[oldschool]

9 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

And she's pretty bad at making that happen. She doesn't get a pass. Every incompetent person that she fired, she also hired. Her judgment is bad. 

 

Now this is reactionary. Aside from Carthon and Callahan, who was a bad hire?

 

Hired Jrob. he did a good job building a playoff contender then he fell off

hired Vrabel. Good HC who got power hungry and forced his way out

Hired Carthon. He was a hot candidate coming from the 49ers, turned out be a dud

Hired Callahan at the direction of Brinker/Carthon. another hot candidate who was a dud

Hired Brinker

Hired Borgonzi

 

She has hired top tier candidates who came highly recommended, some didn't work out. Thats the business of sports

[japan]

35 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

PK, for one. His approximation of bitching, at least.

Oh, thought you were talking about posters here.  Everyone outside of a couple of loons thought Callahan should be fired.

[ChesterCopperpot1]

5 minutes ago, Cookie said:

I believe Amy should not be involved in Football decisions. However if Brinker and the GM cannot recognize that Callahan was not the right coach , I have serious concerns about their judgment 

This. It was clear as day that he was in over his head. I just don't know what more they wanted to see before making a change. 

[chef]

I feel like I just read through the Marshawn Lynch of threads, where I'm getting run through with rhe same 3-4 concepts Over and Over and Over and Over...

 

Time for AI summary feature where those become bullet points with % support and by whom.

 

 

[oldschool]

It is absolutely bonkers to claim AAS meddled in the football operation if she was the one to decide Callahan should be fired this week while Borganzi/Brinker wanted to wait. I very rarely overrule the managers who work for me but when I do its for damn good reason. I let my managers run their teams day to day. Based on that criteria I guess I'm a meddler!

 

 

[japan]

20 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Gross over simplication as usual with you.

 

Jrob - This is the most puzzling extend and fire case. But there was a ton of smoke around non roster related reasons, plane incident, talking down to AAS, not informing her of big decisions, and so on. In the end though, Jrob destroyed the roster, had terrible draft after terrible draft, and is a major reason the team is trying to crawl out of the current hole.

 

Vrabel - Don't make me laugh. She loved Vrabel and wanted him to stay. dude openly courted the Pats during the bye week, worked behind the scenes to gain total control and then forced his way out. Who cares if she extended him earlier? None of which overshadows the fact Vrabel was 6-18 his last two years and was responsible for many of the bad roster decisions Carthon, who also sucked ass, gets blamed for

 

Callahan - A lot of fans thought it was perfectly fine to give Callahan another year after changing the org structure to put Brinker in charge and hire a real GM in Borgonzi. They didn't expect the team to regress and be horrible while also being historically bad on offense

 

TLDR version. she was right fire all 3 of these guys

 

You left off the Carthon extension and promotion followed by his firing months later...

[oldschool]

2 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

This. It was clear as day that he was in over his head. I just don't know what more they wanted to see before making a change. 

 

its actually disappointing to me AAS had to make this call. It should have been Brinker going to AAS and saying now is the time and here is why.