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1 minute ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

Absolutely piss weak from Davenport to throw out 3 of the deals fans hate the most weren't on Carthon and turn around and say he can't report which ones they were.

Did he suggest they only hired him to gain favor with the league for the stadium? lol 

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2 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

By the way, it doesn’t take much to figure out what the three trades are. We already know that Brinker was knee-deep in the Snead trade, which I was a little disappointed to hear about, but it is what it is. The other two trades have to be the end season deals to flip Hopkins and Jones for draft picks. And only complete retards would have issue with those trades.

 

as for the inference that Ryan was hired to return favor to the NFL for the stadium approval and loan, I actually do believe that the NFL pressured them to hire a minority candidate when the GM job became open. That said they certainly didn’t dictate that it was Carthon and his failure to do the job is completely irrelevant to that. 

 

Davenport wasn't specific that they were trades they could of been FA signings included in those 3 moves.

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On 1/10/2025 at 11:33 AM, Righteous said:

@JamalismsThis is my last post on this subject.   Sports are not a social justice activity.  
 

https://x.com/MAGAVoice/status/1877600034151346666

 

Peep the response.  Now, Marcus Freeman turned down an offer to be the Titans LB coach a few years ago.  Imagine if he had accepted the job and when Vrabel was fired, he was elevated to HC.  He would have flamed out and probably never got another shot to be a HC, ala Pierce and Mayo.

 

Instead, he took a DC job at University at Cincinnati and the team went to the NCAA championship.  Moved to ND as a DC, performed and then became HC…now in the National Championship game.  This guy is my dream coach and he will be a hot commodity for an NFL coaching job.  Why?  Because he is proven.  Will he be fired after one year?  No, because he a proven track record of success.  This is how it is done, regardless of race.  Cronyism won’t work nor will DEI.  And as I said, DEI/AA is a path to failure because you aren’t promoting for accomplishments, but race, gender or sexual orientation.  NFL football is not a social justice activity.

 

Now, hopefully this guy replaces Callahan soon and guess what?  He is Black but he won’t be a DEI hire.  I hope you understand the difference.

 

 

I think you're heavily overrating the impact of "DEI" and underrating the bad decision-making made by NFL owners and executives. Every year they hire people who are just as bad as the guys that you've labeled DEI hires but you don't say anything about them. The problem isn't DEI, it's that a lot of the ultimate decision-makers in the NFL don't actually know much about football.

 

As someone else said before me, Ran wasn't the only black guy that Amy could've hired so even by DEI standards, she wasn't forced to hire him. But that's the decision she made. So far, everyone she's hired to a high profile position, she's had to fire pretty quickly. The issue isn't DEI, it's that apparently Amy sucks at hiring people. 

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28 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Davenport/Reising are idiots. Carthon wasn't scapegoated because the team went 3-14. And who the hell says you have to fire everyone or no one, says who?

 

They said they were thinking about moving on from Carthon at the start of the season. That alone shows he wasn't scapegoated and he was fired for job performance.

 

I'll take it a step further. He wasn't fired because he made some questionable roster moves that led to a 3-14 season. He was fired because he couldn't or wouldn't execute the functions of the job behind the scenes. I think it's probably more about him not being ready for the job or simply being bad at being a top executive more than the not being a hard worker accusations.

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