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It’s also worth noting that Henry led the NFL in rushing attempts and had zero fumbles….something hasn’t happened in almost 40 years.   The last guy to do this was Gerald Riggs way back in 1985.   

Look at all those defenders chasing down a rolling tomato can!

Derrick Henry sure seems to get a lot of those "anybody could do it, perfectly blocked plays" ever since he was declared a bum by message board illuminati.    Luckiest back in history, I gue

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Henry is a great player.  He hasn't declined to scrub status ala EG, but it's silly to look at a guy who dropped from 5.4 YPC to 4.4 YPC, whose average yards per game has dropped from 102 to 75, who has 9 BTKs (on pace for 18-20) down from 34,

and pretend like the guy hasn't declined. 

 

He's still great, but he's no longer the king. We've seen him get taken down this year on plays that would have been house calls in the past. He's gotten better at pass protection, and it's also true that he's probably the best pure RB in the league. 

 

However, there are many teams with a better RBBC with more explosive playmakers who are more dangerous and cheaper. Oddly, Henry hasn't been the same since 2020, when Tannehill put up elite numbers.

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The obvious conclusion is having an "elite back" doesn't help an NFL offense?

 

16 points vs the Steelers and on 3 of the long TDs Henry wasn't on the field.

 

This team needs to start using Spears way more, he's averaging 5.8 yards per carry in the last 5. The offense needs play makers

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5 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

The obvious conclusion is having an "elite back" doesn't help an NFL offense?

 

16 points vs the Steelers and on 3 of the long TDs Henry wasn't on the field.

 

This team needs to start using Spears way more, he's averaging 5.8 yards per carry in the last 5. The offense needs play makers

How's he on catching those wheel routes?

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25 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

The obvious conclusion is having an "elite back" doesn't help an NFL offense?

 

16 points vs the Steelers and on 3 of the long TDs Henry wasn't on the field.

 

This team needs to start using Spears way more, he's averaging 5.8 yards per carry in the last 5. The offense needs play makers

 

Do you think Spears YPC is sustainable given the limited nature of his carries? His one big run per game as skewed this number some.

 

I think Spears is the more dynamic back still.

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1 minute ago, Thumbtack said:

 

Do you think Spears YPC is sustainable given the limited nature of his carries? His one big run per game as skewed this number some.

 

I think Spears is the more dynamic back still.

 

What long run? His long run is 23 yards. He has 6 explosive runs on only 39 carries and no really long runs to inflate his 5.5 yards per carry average. He has a 10+ yard run(explosive) in all but 2 games this season.

 

Aside from the trick play(wildcat fake end around) Henry has 2 explosive runs over 20 yards just like Spears on 100 more carries. Henry averages 5.4 yards on 1st down thanks to that 63 yard run. Spears has a 6.6 yards per carry on 1st down on 21 carries with only a 19 yard long run, That's not "inflating" his average.

 

If you don't see with your own eyes Spears is superior then your blind, the numbers also clearly bear this out.

 

Not only should the Titans not be running so much on 1st down, they should be doing it with Spears over Henry when they do it.

 

Spears likely can't handle the workload Henry does but he most certainly should be the featured RB

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Nothing against DH, but the NFL decided to go the way of the forward pass and the rules they have made make it easier for the offense to score points by throwing the ball down the field. They have devalued the RB position on purpose.  Having an “elite” rb, by whatever your definition of that is, is not as important as it once was.  
 

DH was a unicorn when he could break long runs consistently, but now that he’s lost a step his carries need to go way down.  The offense needs to go the way of protect the qb, accurate throws, fast receivers, big te with hands, and speedy backs that can pass protect and catch the ball.  

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27 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

What long run? His long run is 23 yards. He has 6 explosive runs on only 39 carries and no really long runs to inflate his 5.5 yards per carry average. He has a 10+ yard run(explosive) in all but 2 games this season.

 

Aside from the trick play(wildcat fake end around) Henry has 2 explosive runs over 20 yards just like Spears on 100 more carries. Henry averages 5.4 yards on 1st down thanks to that 63 yard run. Spears has a 6.6 yards per carry on 1st down on 21 carries with only a 19 yard long run, That's not "inflating" his average.

 

If you don't see with your own eyes Spears is superior then your blind, the numbers also clearly bear this out.

 

Not only should the Titans not be running so much on 1st down, they should be doing it with Spears over Henry when they do it.

 

Spears likely can't handle the workload Henry does but he most certainly should be the featured RB

 

Take the emotion out of this. asked you about Spears not a analysis of Henry vs Spears.

 

You take away each run of Spears over 10 yards. (6 carries) He is averaging around 3.3 YPC.

 

So I'll reiterate the question do you think Spears will sustain the YPC if given a larger workload. 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Thumbtack said:

 

Take the emotion out of this.

 

I posted data and math, not emotion.

 

Spears has consistently made explosive runs in 6 of 8 games with a small sample size. He's an explosive RB who can create on his own. Yes I think he can sustain a high yards per carry with an increased workload.

 

And LOL @ taking away his 6 longest runs out of 39 carries

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5 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

I posted data and math, not emotion.

 

Spears has consistently made explosive runs in 6 of 8 games with a small sample size. He's an explosive RB who can create on his own. Yes I think he can sustain a high yards per carry with an increased workload.

 

And LOL @ taking away his 6 longest runs out of 39 carries

 

I'm not taking anything anyway from Spears. I simple asked you a question that for some reason your fist shaking over.

 

Volumn has a tendency to paint a better picture. Which is why I asked do you think he'll maintain it. Tony Pollard is a perfect example of this right now.

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I really, really hate the "take away the big run" argument. The ability to make these big runs is what makes these guys special and EVERY back in the league's ypc is "skewed" by big runs. It's why YPC on it's own is a borderline bullshit stat. Unless a guy is consistently too low on ypc (under 4.0) or consistently crazy high (5.0) it's really not even worth mentioning. When we talk about how good a player is, too many start throwing around stats instead of talking about skill-sets and ability level. Both Spears and Henry are VERY gifted backs, with awesome but different skill sets. They're both huge assets to the team. One is just way more proven than the other. That's it. Don't fall into the trap of constantly comparing them against each other; it leads nowhere good. 

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