BudsOilers Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 Henry gone would be a net gain for the offense. The game changing plays simply don't happen anywhere near the rate they did in his peak to justify the touches. In 2019/2020 he had an explosive run rate of 14% and 12.5%. Now it's 8%. Spears needs more touches and they should come at the expense of Henry. OILERMAN, and LongTimeFan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 hour ago, CreepingDeath said: Who am I?: Even the best RBs don't mean a damn thing to a team winning or losing in today's NFL. AND The Titans would win more if they played a different RB than this one specific guy. You're smart CreepingDeath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 Back to Henry bashing for the Tannystans. titanruss, and heyitsmeallen 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 26 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said: Free agency will show Tannehill's worth around the league after the season He'll easily get paid more than Henry if he continues to play pea brain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, titanruss said: I don't know how you can say a stat means anything once you take out explosive plays. Do it for the entire league and then rank all teams. It means 86% of the time, the 1st down run puts the team in a 2nd down obvious passing situation......which the initial stat provided by PK would not have led people to conclude that. Of course, those of us who aren't retards already knew this.... OILERMAN, rns90, titanruss, and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 When you look at @BudsOilerspost from the previous page it is damning. I mean he obviously gets more chances than Spears and has a lower explosive run rate. And on the other first down carries, basically produces at an average level. You are left wondering why the hell they run so much for so little (both yardage and in terms of wasted plays, and putting the offense into long yardage situations). BudsOilers, and OILERMAN 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said: Free agency will show Tannehill's worth around the league after the season I'd imagine it will play out like the last time this happened.....Henry got 12 M APY and 50 M and Tannehill got 29 M APY and 118 M...... Neither will get that in FA at this stages of their careers but Tannehill, assuming he still wants to play, will get more than Henry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, rns90 said: When you look at @BudsOilerspost from the previous page it is damning. I mean he obviously gets more chances than Spears and has a lower explosive run rate. And on the other first down carries, basically produces at an average level. You are left wondering why the hell they run so much for so little (both yardage and in terms of wasted plays, and putting the offense into long yardage situations). Well we know why..... rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, rns90 said: When you look at @BudsOilerspost from the previous page it is damning. I'm not even kidding about this I'm purposely too easy on Henry. Meathed's love and reliance on him is a detriment to the offense. Even in his prime when he was really explosive rns90, and BudsOilers 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, rns90 said: You are left wondering why the hell they run so much for so little (both yardage and in terms of wasted plays, and putting the offense into long yardage situations). Vrabel is literally "waiting for it to pop" rns90, and BudsOilers 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: Well we know why..... If he did this with another RB (and not the star RB/one of the faces of the franchise), he'd definitely be getting more flack. Henry kind of shields him from criticism at least among the dullards/casuals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, OILERMAN said: Vrabel is literally "waiting for it to pop" Damn, I was hoping for the we got something that 31 other teams don't have line.. BudsOilers, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 minute ago, rns90 said: Damn, I was hoping for the we got something that 31 other teams don't have line.. I remember the Ravens playoff loss. Every time the offense came off the field Vrabel ran to Henry and slapped down on his shoulder pads and and tried to give him a pep talk. It was sickening. Brown was killing them and led them to a 10-0 lead and Vrabel leaned on Henry. Vrabel was never going to use Brown like the Eagles do anyway, he's too stupid IsntLifeFunny, rns90, BudsOilers, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: Henry gone would be a net gain for the offense. The game changing plays simply don't happen anywhere near the rate they did in his peak to justify the touches. In 2019/2020 he had an explosive run rate of 14% and 12.5%. Now it's 8%. Spears needs more touches and they should come at the expense of Henry. Spears is a good and explosive back but spears doesn't get the ball more than 50% of the time when he is in the game on early downs like Henry does. It's not as expected when he gets the ball precisely because he's the change of pace back. If he becomes the lead and we continue to try and run the same offense - like we did with Foreman/ Hilliard. You are making a rookie mistake of assuming a small amount of carries will translate to equal efficiency with more carries. You do that argument then you also should be arguing Henry needs to be on third down more because his pass blocking and receiving efficiency is much better than Spears'. If you want to extrapolate Spears production stats then eat on this too: Henry in the last 6 games Tannehill has missed because of injuries has.... 821 yards and 6 TDs. On pace for 2326 total yards and 17tds. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted November 11, 2023 Report Share Posted November 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: I'd imagine it will play out like the last time this happened.....Henry got 12 M APY and 50 M and Tannehill got 29 M APY and 118 M...... Neither will get that in FA at this stages of their careers but Tannehill, assuming he still wants to play, will get more than Henry. For such a self proclaimed expert, what a fucking idiotic response. Relative to their position, let's see who gets paid accordingly to their value at their position. Who has more endorsements? Who has more jersey sales? Who is much more marketable? For 54, you sure are a dumb mother fucker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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