No1TitansFan Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 50 minutes ago, ctm said: Not picking an IOL this year didn't help. That may bite us next year. That may well be true if they don't think Brewer is viable as COF; but the shitshow that not having viable tackles has reared it's ugly head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 6 hours ago, TampaTitan said: It always kinda felt like it was his bummed ankle that kept giving him issues, was there a knee problem that I'm not remembering? IIRC he had knee surgery in both knees before the 2021 season. Knee issues at like 23-24 years old isn't a great sign. Maybe he ends up being completely fine but I get being hesitant on him. TampaTitan, and IrishTitansFan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 hours ago, BaddKarma said: It is really simple. The talent on offense outside of 22 and 17 is among the worst in the league. The worst. This is overstating things a bit. O-line as a whole is pretty horrible…but that’s mainly on Daley and Brewer. BJones and Davis are solid players; NPF has done well for a rookie and will almost certainly improve. Hooper and Okonkwo are a strong TE tandem…and Okonkwo is already one of the most explosive playmaking TEs in the entire league. But they’re badly underutilized by a coaching staff that devalues the TE position. The RB room is also very talented and versatile….but Hilliard and Haskins are largely ignored by a coaching staff in favor of building everything around a single workhorse RB. The WR room is obviously a mess….but Burks is demonstrating huge playmaking ability and serious home run potential. The biggest question is whether he can stay on the field. There’s no question that the offense is being seriously limited by some huge gaping holes in the roster….but they’re also not that far away. Upgrading just 2-3 positions this offseason could provide a dramatic overall improvement next year. They also have good underutilized talent on the roster today that could potentially provide a quick and immediate boost for a flailing and ineffective offense. It’s just a matter of whether the coaching staff chooses to adjust their approach a bit….or stay the course with the approach that has produced one of the worst offenses in the entire league. DCTitan, prometheus, and Supdawg 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 6 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Not unusual at all several teams currently use this model where there is a full personnel staff operating underneath a head coach that has final say on the roster (Patriots, 49ers) also Sean Payton had a lot clout at the Saints as well, there was obviously the Bill O'Brien disaster at the Texans. Seahawks also have this model AussieTitanFan08 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 There are times when I think a lot of fans here only watch this team because there is no way you guys can be as optimistic about the talent on this team the way you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, nine said: This is overstating things a bit. O-line as a whole is pretty horrible…but that’s mainly on Daley and Brewer. BJones and Davis are solid players; NPF has done well for a rookie and will almost certainly improve. Hooper and Okonkwo are a strong TE tandem…and Okonkwo is already one of the most explosive playmaking TEs in the entire league. But they’re badly underutilized by a coaching staff that devalues the TE position. The RB room is also very talented and versatile….but Hilliard and Haskins are largely ignored by a coaching staff in favor of building everything around a single workhorse RB. The WR room is obviously a mess….but Burks is demonstrating huge playmaking ability and serious home run potential. The biggest question is whether he can stay on the field. There’s no question that the offense is being seriously limited by some huge gaping holes in the roster….but they’re also not that far away. Upgrading just 2-3 positions this offseason could provide a dramatic overall improvement next year. They also have good underutilized talent on the roster today that could potentially provide a quick and immediate boost for a flailing and ineffective offense. It’s just a matter of whether the coaching staff chooses to adjust their approach a bit….or stay the course with the approach that has produced one of the worst offenses in the entire league. Wrong. @BaddKarma is right and Quiver Chins decisions are why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 7 hours ago, TampaTitan said: It always kinda felt like it was his bummed ankle that kept giving him issues, was there a knee problem that I'm not remembering? Bilateral knee surgery last off season before the trade TampaTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: Wrong. @BaddKarma is right and Quiver Chins decisions are why. Which parts of what I said were “wrong”? I completely agree that JRob was directly responsible for the current mess the offense is in…especially OL and WR. But there are still several pretty good players whose solid performance is being wasted and overshadowed by the horrible play at other spots. I believe that upgrading the LT, LG, and WR2 positions would produce a significant overall improvement in the offense. You’re saying you disagree with this sentiment? XAEA12, Supdawg, and StephenIsLegend 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisingTitanFan Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 4:30 PM, XAEA12 said: The OL would have been fine if Lewan hadn't been lost for the season. I guess missing on Radunz was a big nail in the coffin? Though he had to be better than Daley. Maybe that's why Vrabel refused to play Radunz... #powerplayVrabel If Lewan stayed in it still feels like this line would be pretty weak. With Lewan in could they at least run their offense is the question. I suspect they could, but they would always be a dominant D-line away from being exposed. Lewan doesn't save that Eagles game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, nine said: Which parts of what I said were “wrong”? I completely agree that JRob was directly responsible for the current mess the offense is in…especially OL and WR. But there are still several pretty good players whose solid performance is being wasted and overshadowed by the horrible play at other spots. I believe that upgrading the LT, LG, and WR2 positions would produce a significant overall improvement in the offense. You’re saying you disagree with this sentiment? They are one of the least talented teams personnel wise on offense comparatively and some of your “pretty good” players are merely OK ones. titansfan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 52 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: IIRC he had knee surgery in both knees before the 2021 season. Knee issues at like 23-24 years old isn't a great sign. Maybe he ends up being completely fine but I get being hesitant on him. There was that report that he played the entire 2020 season with his knee being basically bone on bone Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 7 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Not unusual at all several teams currently use this model where there is a full personnel staff operating underneath a head coach that has final say on the roster (Patriots, 49ers) also Sean Payton had a lot clout at the Saints as well, there was obviously the Bill O'Brien disaster at the Texans. While Payton had a lot of clout, Loomis was a very strong GM. Much different than BOB... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, nine said: Which parts of what I said were “wrong”? I completely agree that JRob was directly responsible for the current mess the offense is in…especially OL and WR. But there are still several pretty good players whose solid performance is being wasted and overshadowed by the horrible play at other spots. I believe that upgrading the LT, LG, and WR2 positions would produce a significant overall improvement in the offense. You’re saying you disagree with this sentiment? Gotta agree with nine here. The news and the shock of the news seems to be making the roster out to be worse than it is. They’ve got some good to potentially really good pieces in place. DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 hours ago, BaddKarma said: I hope the Titans hire a real GM not a Vrabel yes man. Good luck with that... XAEA12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTiger3733 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 We're going to have some fun debates this spring about if we should draft a sure-fire 1st round LG in O'Cyrus Torrence or reach for an LT that's likely a 2nd round player ctm, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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