Supernope Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 if Bud's casino bus ever gets back to town he'll make sense of this for us TheBukafax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmcnair22 Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 14 minutes ago, titansfan said: As we said then, that was when he was actually fired. And it wasn't undeserved No one’s arguing that the firing wasn’t deserved — it’s the way it was handled that’s concerning. Amy isn’t letting football people make football decisions. If you listen to that Albert Breer interview with Stillman, it’s not a good look. He basically confirms what some local reporters have been hinting at — that this was a reactionary move. Apparently, Amy had a large group with her at the Raiders game, and the team’s performance that day heavily influenced her decision. That lines up eerily well with how Robinson’s firing went down. Breer also mentioned that the original plan was to move on from Callahan after the season, but everything flipped after that Raiders game. I don’t think it takes a genius to realize Brinker and Borgonzi didn’t just change their minds overnight. It also explains why it took a bit to sort out who the interim coach would even be. I’ve been pretty neutral about Amy’s involvement up to this point because, honestly, every firing so far has been justified. But this time, it feels like emotion drove the decision — not football logic. And this is exactly what many fans have feared. In the offseason, Brinker was all over local media preaching patience. But deep down, we all knew that if Amy wasn’t happy with what she saw on the field, it wouldn’t matter what Brinker wanted. It’s getting harder to dismiss the stories about her not wanting to be embarrassed. One or two reports, fine — but now multiple sources are saying the same thing. It really feels like our owner is trending toward being the same kind of meddler her dad was, and that’s a scary thought. Mythos27, IsntLifeFunny, NashvilleNinja, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 (edited) Breer never says he has a source for Amy ordering the firing. He draws that conclusion from her past actions and the fact she had a group at the Raiders game. Edited October 15, 2025 by ctm Bongo59, and oldschool 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 4 minutes ago, airmcnair22 said: No one’s arguing that the firing wasn’t deserved — it’s the way it was handled that’s concerning. Amy isn’t letting football people make football decisions. If you listen to that Albert Breer interview with Stillman, it’s not a good look. He basically confirms what some local reporters have been hinting at — that this was a reactionary move. Apparently, Amy had a large group with her at the Raiders game, and the team’s performance that day heavily influenced her decision. That lines up eerily well with how Robinson’s firing went down. Breer also mentioned that the original plan was to move on from Callahan after the season, but everything flipped after that Raiders game. I don’t think it takes a genius to realize Brinker and Borgonzi didn’t just change their minds overnight. It also explains why it took a bit to sort out who the interim coach would even be. I’ve been pretty neutral about Amy’s involvement up to this point because, honestly, every firing so far has been justified. But this time, it feels like emotion drove the decision — not football logic. And this is exactly what many fans have feared. In the offseason, Brinker was all over local media preaching patience. But deep down, we all knew that if Amy wasn’t happy with what she saw on the field, it wouldn’t matter what Brinker wanted. It’s getting harder to dismiss the stories about her not wanting to be embarrassed. One or two reports, fine — but now multiple sources are saying the same thing. It really feels like our owner is trending toward being the same kind of meddler her dad was, and that’s a scary thought. Callahan was already fired weeks ago, I have no issues with her moving up the timeline because the team was lifeless, Callahan had lost the locker room, and getting crushed week in and week out. if Demercado doesn't drop the ball at the goal line, that's another 20+ loss to a bad/average team. I applaud her for making the decision this week, that doesn't make her emotional or reactionary this time around. Now if she truly did make the call to take play calling away from Callahan, thats too far of reach into the day to day operations. They are not one and the same despite some attempts to frame it that way. TF_Titan, Thrill, and IowaOiler 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 11 minutes ago, airmcnair22 said: And this is exactly what many fans have feared. In the offseason, Brinker was all over local media preaching patience. But deep down, we all knew that if Amy wasn’t happy with what she saw on the field, it wouldn’t matter what Brinker wanted. Absolutely nailed it. This is a dangerous place to be for any executive. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex in a Can Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: Why hire Brinker and give him total control over football decisions if you're going to meddle and make decisions like this. She's just like her dad if this story is true and there is little hope to fixing things. This also makes it likely she got emotional after the Eagles game, where AJ Brown went off and fired Robinson mid season She's her father's daughter! Bongo59, Supernope, and OILERMAN 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmcnair22 Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 So either we’re going to allow football people to make football decisions or we’re not. We’re ok with Amy moving the timeline up but why? Why didn’t she just fire him after the Houston game when he got blanked? My issue isn’t that Callahan got fired it’s the trend of her seemingly reactionary firing and this report from McCormick and handful of others that paint her out to be an insecure person who makes decisions out of emotion. The question really is: do any of us trust her to actually allow Brinker/Borgonzi to do their job? Mythos27, and DCTitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 3 minutes ago, oldschool said: Callahan was already fired weeks ago, I have no issues with her moving up the timeline because the team was lifeless, Callahan had lost the locker room, and getting crushed week in and week out. if Demercado doesn't drop the ball at the goal line, that's another 20+ loss to a bad/average team. I applaud her for making the decision this week, that doesn't make her emotional or reactionary this time around. Now if she truly did make the call to take play calling away from Callahan, thats too far of reach into the day to day operations. They are not one and the same despite some attempts to frame it that way. Remember what she said when Robinson was fired? To paraphrase.....when you lose confidence in someone, you move immediately. It doesn't do anyone any good to wait. Some would label that impulsive, others might call it decisive, depending on your point of view. oldschool, DCTitan, LongTimeFan, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 20 minutes ago, titansfan said: Also I dont think she made this decision rouge. The option for firing Callahan has been on the table since January. I think the organization probably were all of the opinion that Callahan was underperforming and not showing improvement but for the sake of stability wanted to avoid firing him Mid-season. Its just always going to be messy no matter how you spin it. I think Amy simply said lets go ahead and do it if we already know thats what we're going to do. It doesn't help that Ward and Simmons basically called out the coach in coded language. Firing him isn't the problem. Taking away his play calling abilities is a huge red flag. Hope we got that sorted out. oldschool, and TF_Titan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmcnair22 Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 5 minutes ago, oldschool said: Now if she truly did make the call to take play calling away from Callahan, thats too far of reach into the day to day operations. They are not one and the same despite some attempts to frame it that way. Correct that they aren’t the same in terms of impact, but they are the same in terms of a concerning trend of not allowing your football people to make football decisions. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 16 minutes ago, airmcnair22 said: No one’s arguing that the firing wasn’t deserved — it’s the way it was handled that’s concerning. Amy isn’t letting football people make football decisions. If you listen to that Albert Breer interview with Stillman, it’s not a good look. He basically confirms what some local reporters have been hinting at — that this was a reactionary move. Apparently, Amy had a large group with her at the Raiders game, and the team’s performance that day heavily influenced her decision. That lines up eerily well with how Robinson’s firing went down. Breer also mentioned that the original plan was to move on from Callahan after the season, but everything flipped after that Raiders game. I don’t think it takes a genius to realize Brinker and Borgonzi didn’t just change their minds overnight. It also explains why it took a bit to sort out who the interim coach would even be. I’ve been pretty neutral about Amy’s involvement up to this point because, honestly, every firing so far has been justified. But this time, it feels like emotion drove the decision — not football logic. And this is exactly what many fans have feared. In the offseason, Brinker was all over local media preaching patience. But deep down, we all knew that if Amy wasn’t happy with what she saw on the field, it wouldn’t matter what Brinker wanted. It’s getting harder to dismiss the stories about her not wanting to be embarrassed. One or two reports, fine — but now multiple sources are saying the same thing. It really feels like our owner is trending toward being the same kind of meddler her dad was, and that’s a scary thought. I doubt she went into the inner workings of football operations that she decided that Callahan be stripped of the very thing that he was having a hard time juggling. That was clearly a football person behind that. In fact im willing to bet it was Callahan himself who may have proposed it during their Monday meetings. Amy likely just mandated something needed to change, which it did. japan, Jamalisms, and IsntLifeFunny 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titansfan Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 Listen two things can be true.. I just dont want you guys burying the lead which is Callahan was absolutely in over his head, was directionless, a disappointment and absolutely deserved to be fire. And basically everyone saw it here after week 2. DCTitan, and oldschool 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmcnair22 Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 6 minutes ago, ctm said: Remember what she said when Robinson was fired? To paraphrase.....when you lose confidence in someone, you move immediately. It doesn't do anyone any good to wait. Some would label that impulsive, others might call it decisive, depending on your point of view. The issue is that her confidence in certain people (in this case Callahan) is overriding her confidence in her actual football people — Brinker and Borgonzi. She’s the owner, so yeah, she can do whatever she wants. She owns the team, I get that. But what football logic or reasoning is she using to make these decisions? I don’t think there is any. It’s perfectly fine to be frustrated with the product on the field or to lose patience, but that’s exactly why you hire football people — to make those calls with a clear head and long-term plan. At some point, you have to trust them to do their jobs. OILERMAN, Mythos27, and Jamalisms 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 2 minutes ago, titansfan said: In fact im willing to bet it was Callahan himself who may have proposed it during their Monday meetings. Amy likely just mandated something needed to change, which it did. That very obviously didn't happen. japan, and airmcnair22 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFreak90 Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 The way I understood it was Borgonzi wanted to make coaching change during the off-season, and AAS said to keep Callahan. Who knows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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