scine09 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Just now, AussieTitanFan08 said: Davenport wasn't specific that they were trades they could have been FA signings included in those 3 moves. I suspect one was not trading Henry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) On 1/10/2025 at 11:33 AM, Righteous said: @JamalismsThis is my last post on this subject. Sports are not a social justice activity. https://x.com/MAGAVoice/status/1877600034151346666 Peep the response. Now, Marcus Freeman turned down an offer to be the Titans LB coach a few years ago. Imagine if he had accepted the job and when Vrabel was fired, he was elevated to HC. He would have flamed out and probably never got another shot to be a HC, ala Pierce and Mayo. Instead, he took a DC job at University at Cincinnati and the team went to the NCAA championship. Moved to ND as a DC, performed and then became HC…now in the National Championship game. This guy is my dream coach and he will be a hot commodity for an NFL coaching job. Why? Because he is proven. Will he be fired after one year? No, because he a proven track record of success. This is how it is done, regardless of race. Cronyism won’t work nor will DEI. And as I said, DEI/AA is a path to failure because you aren’t promoting for accomplishments, but race, gender or sexual orientation. NFL football is not a social justice activity. Now, hopefully this guy replaces Callahan soon and guess what? He is Black but he won’t be a DEI hire. I hope you understand the difference. I think you're heavily overrating the impact of "DEI" and underrating the bad decision-making made by NFL owners and executives. Every year they hire people who are just as bad as the guys that you've labeled DEI hires but you don't say anything about them. The problem isn't DEI, it's that a lot of the ultimate decision-makers in the NFL don't actually know much about football. As someone else said before me, Ran wasn't the only black guy that Amy could've hired so even by DEI standards, she wasn't forced to hire him. But that's the decision she made. So far, everyone she's hired to a high profile position, she's had to fire pretty quickly. The issue isn't DEI, it's that apparently Amy sucks at hiring people. Edited January 11 by Mythos27 BeedoeLaw, and oldschool 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted January 11 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 11 Davenport/Reising are idiots. Carthon wasn't scapegoated because the team went 3-14. And who the hell says you have to fire everyone or no one, says who? They said they were thinking about moving on from Carthon at the start of the season. That alone shows he wasn't scapegoated and he was fired for job performance. SuperFreak90, IsntLifeFunny, Wyattworld, and 5 others 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) 28 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Davenport/Reising are idiots. Carthon wasn't scapegoated because the team went 3-14. And who the hell says you have to fire everyone or no one, says who? They said they were thinking about moving on from Carthon at the start of the season. That alone shows he wasn't scapegoated and he was fired for job performance. I'll take it a step further. He wasn't fired because he made some questionable roster moves that led to a 3-14 season. He was fired because he couldn't or wouldn't execute the functions of the job behind the scenes. I think it's probably more about him not being ready for the job or simply being bad at being a top executive more than the not being a hard worker accusations. Edited January 11 by oldschool OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Woke up this morning expecting to see some news about coaching moves as the Friday news dump hit. How in the hell does Colt Anderson still have a job? titansfan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Justafan said: Woke up this morning expecting to see some news about coaching moves as the Friday news dump hit. How in the hell does Colt Anderson still have a job? America runs on meritocracy. CreepingDeath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Justafan said: Woke up this morning expecting to see some news about coaching moves as the Friday news dump hit. How in the hell does Colt Anderson still have a job? Maybe because his unit showed vast improvement the last 6 weeks after they got some real special teams guys ans jettisoned the fumbling returner in Jackson? Coverage units got better, penalties dropped, and even stonehouse started getting more hang time and being better with directional punts. IsntLifeFunny, TylerRoseFan, TeamRamrod, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Just now, oldschool said: Maybe because his unit showed vast improvement the last 6 weeks after they got some real special teams guys ans jettisoned the fumbling returner in Jackson? Coverage units got better, penalties dropped, and even stonehouse started getting more hang time and being better with directional punts. The dude was a complete disaster for 11 weeks of the season. Historically bad. If you want to blame that on personnel, that's fine, but I don't see how anyone can look at the coverage units and punt block units and say it was just Jackson and a couple of back-end roster guys holding back STs. At some point, if everyone on the unit is incompetent, they had an entire offseason to recognize that and do something about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Justafan said: The dude was a complete disaster for 11 weeks of the season. Historically bad. If you want to blame that on personnel, that's fine, but I don't see how anyone can look at the coverage units and punt block units and say it was just Jackson and a couple of back-end roster guys holding back STs. At some point, if everyone on the unit is incompetent, they had an entire offseason to recognize that and do something about it. It was real bad to start but the entire unit showed tons of improvement and 6 weeks is a long stretch of the season, especially to end the season. Wouldn't surprise me if he saved his job. scine09, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) 6 minutes ago, oldschool said: It was real bad to start but the entire unit showed tons of improvement and 6 weeks is a long stretch of the season, especially to end the season. Wouldn't surprise me if he saved his job. Over the last 6 weeks of the season, they were still allowing long returns, including an 80-yard return by Pierce, and they still had spotty tackling and missed assignments all year. You say it was greatly improved, but I don't see that. I think it got marginally better, but it was still bottom of the league. Certainly not promising enough to justify keeping a lousy coach. Edited January 11 by Justafan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 52 minutes ago, Justafan said: Over the last 6 weeks of the season, they were still allowing long returns, including an 80-yard return by Pierce, and they still had spotty tackling and missed assignments all year. You say it was greatly improved, but I don't see that. I think it got marginally better, but it was still bottom of the league. Certainly not promising enough to justify keeping a lousy coach. The last six weeks definitely wasn’t bottom of the league in special teams play. It actually became fairly solid. There’s no reason to fire a coach if his unit improved the way it did. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, scine09 said: The last six weeks definitely wasn’t bottom of the league in special teams play. It actually became fairly solid. There’s no reason to fire a coach if his unit improved the way it did. They were 31st in the league on kickoff returns with 27 yards per return allowed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, Justafan said: They were 31st in the league on kickoff returns with 27 yards per return allowed. I am talking about the last six weeks. From the Washington game to the second Houston game. I know the numbers stunk overall. But I would not fire him as things improved. He was a first time coach who didn’t have the players and they fixed the problems that plagued them early with the punt blocks and returns. I am not a fan of firing people, particularly after their first year, unless things are bad and not improving. I think had the improvement after the first Houston game not taken place I’d feel differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted January 11 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 11 Honestly Carthon had a lot to do with the STs struggles early on. He bypassed keeping bottom roster guys who were good at STs for positional players. Chesnutt over Haskins for example No1TitansFan, ChesterCopperpot1, smokeater, and 6 others 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 38 minutes ago, scine09 said: I am talking about the last six weeks. From the Washington game to the second Houston game. I know the numbers stunk overall. But I would not fire him as things improved. He was a first time coach who didn’t have the players and they fixed the problems that plagued them early with the punt blocks and returns. I am not a fan of firing people, particularly after their first year, unless things are bad and not improving. I think had the improvement after the first Houston game not taken place I’d feel differently. Lol. That is the last 6 weeks. They improved on punt return coverage, but their kick return coverage was still awful, and it's the one that matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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