Looper Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 5 hours ago, headhunter said: So you think the Clinton's have done nothing wrong? The Clinton’s what? Their dog? Their front door? Who or what are you talking about? MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 If I was a democrat I’d be pretty annoyed about how this process played out. There are ways they could have involved their voters in this to some degree. Yes, I know the money raised for Biden/Harris would be an issue. Yes, I know the optics of bypassing the VP may look bad. But completely denying your voter base to have any real decision on the matter is a very bad look. They could have come out and touched on these things as why Harris should be the logical choice. Or another candidate, with momentum, might be able to bypass them as non issues if the voters wanted them enough. In this digital age and with representatives in every state, they could have had a much more formal, involving process. It wouldn’t be as legitimate as an actual primary, but a lot closer than the clown show of a sitting President rescinding his nomination (without an interview or message or live actual words) by two posts on one social media site and other high ranking members of the DNC endorsing his recommendation. Just a truly bad look from a voter perspective. I know you guys have to unify behind her and justify this because it’s all there is to do - but be real about it. This was lame and Democrats speaking out about it have every right to be mad. HigherLogic 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Reignman said: You are delusional if you think Kamala is a good candidate. As I stated, nobody outside black women is going to vote for her. +80 million will, if you understand how this works. If not, I’m pretty sure you shouldn’t be commenting about others’ IQ. Edited July 22, 2024 by begooode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 6 minutes ago, Mercalius said: If I was a democrat I’d be pretty annoyed about how this process played out. There are ways they could have involved their voters in this to some degree. Yes, I know the money raised for Biden/Harris would be an issue. Yes, I know the optics of bypassing the VP may look bad. But completely denying your voter base to have any real decision on the matter is a very bad look. They could have come out and touched on these things as why Harris should be the logical choice. Or another candidate, with momentum, might be able to bypass them as non issues if the voters wanted them enough. In this digital age and with representatives in every state, they could have had a much more formal, involving process. It wouldn’t be as legitimate as an actual primary, but a lot closer than the clown show of a sitting President rescinding his nomination (without an interview or message or live actual words) by two posts on one social media site and other high ranking members of the DNC endorsing his recommendation. Just a truly bad look from a voter perspective. I know you guys have to unify behind her and justify this because it’s all there is to do - but be real about it. This was lame and Democrats speaking out about it have every right to be mad. Man your candidate is old, dude. You know your party did not have to take its name, Grand Old Party, literally, didn't you - yawl could have nominated someone in his 60s or at least early 70s. Come on, dude. OILERMAN, and CreepingDeath 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercalius Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 Just now, 9 Nines said: Man your candidate is old, dude. You know your party did not have to take its name, Grand Old Party, literally, didn't you - yawl could have nominated someone in his 60s or at least early 70s. Come on, dude. Beep boop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 https://www.newsweek.com/nikki-haley-voters-pac-announces-support-kamala-harris-1928198 freakingeek 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 1 minute ago, begooode said: +80 million will, if you understand how this works. If not, I’m pretty sure Not sure you shouldn’t be commenting about others’ IQ. That isn't guaranteed. I know many are happy Biden's out but there are serious concerns Harris will win over WI, MI, and PA. She'll need to win PA plus those or swap them out for AZ and GA. This is still an up hill battle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 14 minutes ago, Reignman said: Haha yeah sure. Easy to say that on an internet forum. And if you would vote for her you must have a low I.Q. So why don't you just come out and bald-faced call me a racist, rass? Fuck you. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, Reignman said: Man please. I guess beta male white men will vote for her. I should have said that next to black women. The lack of self awareness from Trumpers when they zealously label others, but in fact expose their limited worldviews. Yeesh freakingeek, Jamalisms, Mythos27, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, MadMax said: So why don't you just come out and bald-faced call me a racist, rass? Fuck you. ahhh, thx. I didn’t know. Kinda sucks that he appropriated Sean Kemp’s tag, though. CreepingDeath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Mercalius said: If I was a democrat I’d be pretty annoyed about how this process played out. There are ways they could have involved their voters in this to some degree. Yes, I know the money raised for Biden/Harris would be an issue. Yes, I know the optics of bypassing the VP may look bad. But completely denying your voter base to have any real decision on the matter is a very bad look. They could have come out and touched on these things as why Harris should be the logical choice. Or another candidate, with momentum, might be able to bypass them as non issues if the voters wanted them enough. In this digital age and with representatives in every state, they could have had a much more formal, involving process. It wouldn’t be as legitimate as an actual primary, but a lot closer than the clown show of a sitting President rescinding his nomination (without an interview or message or live actual words) by two posts on one social media site and other high ranking members of the DNC endorsing his recommendation. Just a truly bad look from a voter perspective. I know you guys have to unify behind her and justify this because it’s all there is to do - but be real about it. This was lame and Democrats speaking out about it have every right to be mad. A large majority of all voters felt Biden should step aside. So the "bad look from a voter perspective" is likely wishful thinking. We don't know what the process is from here, but Biden had to willfully step aside for any process to move forward. Edited July 22, 2024 by Rogue Pragidealist, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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9 Nines Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 10 minutes ago, Rogue said: We don't know what the process is from here, but Biden had to willfully step aside for any process to move forward. Yes we do. It take 600 delegates endorsing a replacement/candidate to put that candidate before the whole delegation for a vote. Harris already has that easily, and with so many big names already bowing out, there probably will not be another candidate. When they are ready for a roll call vote, which could come as early as next week, she will officially be the nominee. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rogue Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 17 minutes ago, 9 Nines said: Yes we do. It take 600 delegates endorsing a replacement/candidate to put that candidate before the whole delegation for a vote. Harris already has that easily, and with so many big names already bowing out, there probably will not be another candidate. When they are ready for a roll call vote, which could come as early as next week, she will officially be the nominee. I believe this to be correct, but I was suggesting we don't know what process they will use going forward. There's been a lot of talk of a mini-convention. That said, Harris is getting huge support so this will probably influence any plans they might have had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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