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12 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Anymore unlikely than say the Cardinals taking him at 3 without a QB and RT? He is the best player in the draft. It isn't a stretch. Borgonzi didn't say "Tate was our top rated player". He said"he was one of our top rated players". There's no win on either side of the argument. We will never know the answer to that question. 

Truth here.  None of us know for sure who the selection would have been if the jets and cards had picked different players. 

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My preferences were Bailey->Tate->Love->Styles. I never thought Tate was an option so I was really surprised when it happened. Funny how things don't leak when your head coach isn't boinking

We are going into the next several years with QB, WR1, and EDGE under rookie contracts.   While Love would have been great, Tate brings a ton of value. For example, even with the huge pay cu

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On 4/24/2026 at 8:31 AM, Grizz said:

From a developmental stand point, I really don't see as big a difference in Faulk and Reese as others might. Faulk has crazy potential and the way he was used leads me to believe he can be developed. 

 

The Tate pick showed that Borgonzi was well aware of the draft board. There was a big run on WR towards the back end. Boston maybe would have been there...I like Tate and Faulk better than Reese and Boston. 

 

 

They have different potentials. Reese could end up being like Micah Parsons and Faulk might end up like Montez Sweat crossed with Arik Armstead, which is still elite but a peg lower than Parsons. 

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Just now, Thrill said:

They have different potentials. Reese could end up being like Micah Parsons and Faulk might end up like Montez Sweat crossed with Arik Armstead, which is still elite but a peg lower than Parsons. 

Reese is playing LB and not full time edge rusher for the Giants 

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18 hours ago, Pragidealist said:

I had them Love, Tate, Bailey, Reese and I think that's what it was.   Ppl went nuts I was saying we'd pass on both edges and now that we passed on 1-  ppl just shrug. I think we passed on both.  You could say its confirmation bias for me too on Bailey but they got a bigger DE- just like I was saying instead of a speedster tweener. 

Not sure I agree re bailey but you make a really good point. We passed on Reese, passed on a trade took Tate and traded up to get a guy the opposite of bailey and Reese 

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1 minute ago, headhunter said:

Reese is playing LB and not full time edge rusher for the Giants 

As a rookie. That's not why they draft him 5 overall

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Just now, Thrill said:

To me there is nothing dumber than media people questioning pick value or quality of players based on mock drafts made by guys not in NFL front offices. 

 

Tate was clearly the ideal pick for multiple teams in the top 10. 

This also drives me crazy. "John smith was a reach there" based on what? Usually the real answer is based on some pencil necked dork predicting he's go later. 

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Just now, Legaltitan said:

If I had to guess I would say our board was bailey, Tate, then maybe love. Just looking at their excitement over the pick, and the way Tate is so similar to the other two guys drafted, and using common sense that's my guess. I wouldn't be shocked if they had Tate over bailey based on the point prag made. What did we do at edge? We traded draft capital too e up and get the total opposite edge from bailey. 

 

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10 minutes ago, Legaltitan said:

If I had to guess I would say our board was bailey, Tate, then maybe love. Just looking at their excitement over the pick and using common sense that's my guess. 

 

I don't think they were interested in a 240-250lb situational pass rusher over Tate at all. I think it was always between Love and Tate.

 

Hell.. the DE they traded up for is 275-285. 

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1 hour ago, reo said:

 

I don't think they were interested in a 240-250lb situational pass rusher over Tate at all. I think it was always between Love and Tate.

 

Hell.. the DE they traded up for is 275-285. 

They didn't draft that guy to be a wide 9 outside guy. They drafted him to play 5T, more like what Denico Autry used to play. Different positions, so it's not really a fair comparison to how they would have viewed Bailey or other pass rushers who would have been drafted to play LEO. 

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1 hour ago, reo said:

 

I don't think they were interested in a 240-250lb situational pass rusher over Tate at all. I think it was always between Love and Tate.

 

Hell.. the DE they traded up for is 275-285. 

You cut out the part of my post that noted this exact thing 

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