Alcibiades

I don't disagree. I'd just take him. I think you get very few opportunities to take the top QB in the class. Yes, we've blown it before, with players like Young or Mariota. But Ward is a better passer than they were, and this is a passing league right now. We'll debate and argue, but this is our next QB, almost certainly, and that's how it should be. It's a weak QB class, yes, but that doesn't mean Ward is a weak QB. I think he's a very good one. No one is can't miss. Hell, Lawrence was supposed to be generational. He's not been what the Jags hoped. There were debates about Manning and Leaf! Just take the best QB. We need one; he's there.

Taking Sanders is the worst thing we could do. Take Ward or trade down. Those are the only two legit options. Sanders will need a ton of good players around him to be decent. Ward will elevate people. Ward's floor is better and so is his ceiling. I can't compare their attitudes/leadership. I don't know them well enough. But no amount of those things will make a difference in this comparison. If we don't like either QB, trade down to 3 and pick up an extra 2nd round pick or two (or a good player). I'd rather we just don't overthink it and take Ward.

Yes...that's my point.

This is the right move, but I want no part of anyone who did work with the Raiders. Packers...sure. But not the Raiders. The following teams have messed up front offices, and no one associated with them should come here: Raiders, Browns...maybe Jets...maybe. But definitely the Raiders and the Browns. Oh, and probably the Panthers. Go away if you worked with any of them.

I think people forget that Stroud was considered a risky pick too. He needs another year. He has a low ceiling. That's Bleacher report: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10048351-cj-stroud-nfl-draft-2023-scouting-report-for-ohio-state-qb PFF had him 89.1, with some concerns: https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/cj-stroud/129759/draft-profile IDK if either Sanders or Ward will be good QBs in this league, but I know that it's hard to find one and they will both get picked apart in the next few months. If our guys like either one of them, just take the guy. Yeah yeah...what if we can trade to 3 and still get our guy? Great! Try it. But I think people overestimate how easy that is.

I think when you watch the tape on offense, we have guys open. We just didn't have the OL to protect the QB, OR the QB to make the throw. Which was the bigger issue depends on the play, but it was constant. Either our QB got killed in less than 2 seconds, or he just didn't look to the open guy. This suggests Callahan is not the problem (at least on offense). Now, STs was atrocious. We got it fixed a bit, but it was bad bad bad. That's on Callahan to some extent. Force him to get a different ST guy. Defense was weird. At times, they looked good, and other times, I couldn't even understand what they were doing. I don't feel qualified to say whether it was Wilson or the players (or both). But I'd personally give Callahan another year. Letting Carthon go makes too much sense, though.

It's Cory!! Fuck if I know....but I disagree with him completely. Ward's fumbles are an issue, but Sanders holds the ball forever. Look, both of these guys will need coaching to make it in the NFL, but that's pretty normal. We apparently have a decent left side of our OL now. Get a RG and a RT, and one good WR. Let all that develop with Ward, and we will be in great shape. Obviously, IF we can fleece some team to trade down a pick or two and still get our guy, that's great. But you swing for QBs when you get the chance. That's just the way it is. So, I hope everyone gets to like Ward and Sanders, because we are taking one of them, almost certainly. I think it's Ward, and we train him to release quicker.

I think people are overthinking the 'bad QB class' thing. In most years, there are 4 or 5 first round QBs. This year there are basically two. Some people love Dart or Milroe (PFF has him as 1 on their QB right now??? Ok...). But I think in most years, Ward and Sanders would be picked at about 10, but still quite high. So, there are two QBs with first round grades in just about any year (more or less). We have a chance to get one of them. You have to take it. I like Hunter, but let's say he's a CB. Can a CB really turn a team around? No...no matter how good he is, he cannot. What if we play Hunter at WR...can a WR turn a team around? No. He cannot. There are three positions where an elite player can change games for you. QB, edge rush, LT. That's basically it. We have our LT. So, edge or QB? It's so obvious that we need QB more than any other position. You have no idea where the Titans will be picking next year. So, you take your top QB and you don't think twice about it. I think that's Ward, personally.

I like when Levis puts his hands on his head, like he's surrendering to an enemy. Adorable.

We have to keep these two guys together. They have been fantastic, and Sweat is a rookie. He should be better next season. We lack elite edge rushers. Key is good, but if we can get an elite one, our defense suddenly becomes quite good. QBs have been able to roll out and buy time. Get a guy who prevents that, and our front is tough to beat. Obviously, I'm all for drafting Ward, if he's there, but if we can't get him, grab an elite edge and be very happy about it. Then get a RT in the second round, I guess (ugh...but we need it as much as Jennifer Coolidge needs a hot dog...real bad).

Except Levis and Ridley have no chemistry. I think we SHOULD play Ridley. Keep NWI off the field. Rest Okonkwo. Those guys are too good right now. Do we still have our rookie WRs? Let them start.

I don't get why people don't like Ward. Great stats on a team that isn't filled with stars. For that matter, Sanders is an upgrade. Yes, I LOVE the other elite talents in this draft, and I'll be happy to land one, but you never know when you are going to be in position to pick one of the top two QBs in the draft. BOTH are upgrades over what we have now.

Also, HC, OC, DC, and STC....at least.

If we lose out (keep starting Levis...that should do it), then we will get a good player. I'm not sure why people are so obsessed with being in the top 3 or 4. There's about 6 non-QB players that are damned good in this draft. If we don't get Sanders, I want one of them. This team actually has a lot of good pieces in place. Many are new to the team and are just starting to gel. If the OL can come together (get a FA RT...that should do it...heh, that spells fart), then we should be good to go with a decent QB. That guy may not be in the next draft, but get everything ready for him. It's a shame this isn't a QB rich draft, but it is what it is. So get a blue chip guy in the first. Get a RT in the second. Then get this team ready for the QBOF, while bringing in a FA QB for one year. We aren't that far away from being good again, IMO. Levis just makes us look like we are.

So fun to be cheering for teams to win/lose for draft position instead of playoff chances, LOL