Titans Get The #4 Pick In The Draft

[OnsideKick]

 

Edited April 10 by OnsideKick

[OnsideKick]

 

Edited April 10 by OnsideKick

[OnsideKick]

 

Edited April 10 by OnsideKick

[IsntLifeFunny]

2 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

My boy Omar Cooper Jr is going to weigh 300lbs by the time he gets through all these team visits and all these dinners.

 

 

If we trade down he's the guy we should pick, even at 9. 

[NashvilleNinja]

13 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

If we trade down he's the guy we should pick, even at 9. 

 

 

Omar comin! Ain't that right, @Omar...?

[titanruss]

1 hour ago, oldschool said:

One of the weakest arguments against taking love is that the Titans don't have an OL and supporting casts to support him ala Jeanty and the Raiders last year. Makes no sense lol.

 

 

recency bias commentary is soooo hot this time of year. 

Edited April 10 by titanruss

[japan]

1 hour ago, ctm said:

 

Almost everyone agrees that Love is a blue chip player.  The argument against him isn't his performance on the field, which is elite, it's positional value.

Of course.  And the fact that we are starved for talent across the board in way more important positions...

[Justafan]

Tate nation is going to like hearing what Beddingfield had to say on the PK podcast aboout him. 

 

No run after catch ability. More of a #2 type at the next level. 

 

Not a huge Beddingfield subscriber but he's just another in a long list of actual NFL scouts who have said Tate looks like a #2 at the next level. 

[NashvilleNinja]

11 minutes ago, Justafan said:

No run after catch ability. More of a #2 type at the next level.

 

When you're asked to run vertical routes where most of the yards on the play come before the catch the chances are higher you're not going to see many yards after the catch and Tate's usage on deeper developing plays seemed to go up in 2025.

 

AJ Green... yes, I will wear that comp completely out before the draft is over... didn't have big YAC stats either. So what?

[Legaltitan]

2 hours ago, ctm said:

 

Almost everyone agrees that Love is a blue chip player.  The argument against him isn't his performance on the field, which is elite, it's positional value.

Which is why I named him as one of the blue chip players

[AussieTitanFan08]

Pelissero was just on the Rich Eisen Show and discussed his belief that the lack of true blue chip prospects in this draft is going to lead to some teams on the outside looking in becoming aggressive and looking to trade into a position to get one.

 

Pelissero specifically mentioned the Chiefs for a pass rusher and then also the Cowboys as another team that could try to jump up. Eisen threw out Styles as a name NFL people are telling him that the Cowboys covet.

[airmcnair22]

1 hour ago, oldschool said:

One of the weakest arguments against taking love is that the Titans don't have an OL and supporting casts to support him ala Jeanty and the Raiders last year. Makes no sense lol.

 

Let me start off by saying, I’d want us to draft Love 

 

That being said, there are current question marks at Center and RG, but I hope they’re solved by either bringing back Zeitler and/or the draft. Because going into the season with what we currently have at those 2 positions would be horrible. 

[Pragidealist]

45 minutes ago, japan said:

Of course.  And the fact that we are starved for talent across the board in way more important positions...

Giving up your top 5 picks to get mid to late picks and 2nd round picks is a good way to fill holes with good but not great players. This franchise needs cornerstone bluechip players or the next playoff window is going to be filled with lots of 1 and done appearances,

 

or depend on getting luckier than the other teams 

 

if there is no blue chip guy- trade down but don’t waste top 5 picks to fill holes in any year 

[Callidus]

4 hours ago, japan said:

Of course.  This team is devoid of talent.  Taking a RB at 4 seems a little crazy when you can add additional top talent with a trade back.  People with blinders on regarding the value of a RB (We're RB U!)

More like RB Inc. 

[titanruss]

There's other arguments against love. RB injury frequency, career length and likelihood of a second contract, what you could get in a trade-back, the actual difference between love and  johnson/coleman/singleton in the 4th and what that allows you to do earlier.. etc. 

 

But to me the money argument is asinine. Good teams will and do pay for top RB contracts precisely because of how much cheaper they are to add premiere talent to a position - exceeding the value paid. Those contracts are more expensive than a top 10 draft pick. So these (very good teams)  teams will willingly pay for the guy on their second contract where they will be ending their prime at the most injured position... but they shouldn't draft a younger /healthier / cheaper premier RB that hasn't even hit their prime yet? 

 

Also the money difference "well Edges are more expensive when one hits and you need to re-sign".. OK sure. But they are literally 4x more expensive. You could have 2-4 top of the league starters at other positions for that. A top 5 G/RB/TE a top 5 CB/RB a top 5 MLB/RB/G AND C.

 

The 4th pick in the draft accounts for 3-4% of your total team spend or cap THIS season. By the end of the rookie contract its even lower. Love would come in costing us just 2 million more than Pollard or 1/150th of the cap - and we could deal Pollard or spears for picks while immediately having a top 5 position group. 

 

So this leads to hit rate. RB hit rate is significantly higher in the first than Edges. I will need to double check but I believe the radio said 3x more for RBs. If you're thinking you get like a 4x discount if you draft an edge.. but you have like a 1/3 hit rate compared to RBs - then that positional value discount is nearly wiped out.

 

Take their hit rates, second contracts, average value over replacement, career lengths, money saved now... when you add it up, its not the chasm of difference its implied to be.