Callidus Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 17 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: What comparisons would you use? Faulk is probably disingenious .. he could be that good but its absolute best case and absolutely best case sin't higgens for Tate. FAlk vs AJ Green? & Bijan Robinson vs Higgns That's best case for each and more medium for each? How about Downfield Dhop for a topend and george pickens with better hands for the middle ground? TerryBoats, and Pragidealist 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 (edited) Double. Edited April 11 by Callidus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernope Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Kuwatch is a fun name OnsideKick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Callidus said: How about Downfield Dhop for a topend and george pickens with better hands for the middle ground? You honestly think he looks better than this guy did? Between the two, I'd have guessed that Higgins was the Top 10 pick and Tate was the 2nd rounder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 22 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: You honestly think he looks better than this guy did? Between the two, I'd have guessed that Higgins was the Top 10 pick and Tate was the 2nd rounder. Easily. Higgins was nowhere near as good of a route runner or against press coming out. Sure higgins was fun with the ball in his hands but in every other conceivable way tate is equal or better on tape. The fact you posted a highlight reel that doesn't even show his route running on most of the plays says all i need to know about how you evaluate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Callidus Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 12 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: Sleeper is the end all be all for draft knowlege... Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormi Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 11 hours ago, titanruss said: OK now do it for every single first round EDGE and WR. Superbowl winning teams roster mimicry is one of the worst ways to ever try and build a team or argue a point. Its not against you, I just see this everywhere and its an insanely poor thought out argument. "that 1 team won, copy that" vs "this group of teams have made the playoffs / conference championships - lets lets find their common denominators." All you've gotta do is hit on a Top 10 QB of all time! and have a brilliant HC vs some team that made it behind a an elite RB and decent QB, lost the game by a last second FG, and all of a sudden they are a bad way to structure a roster. We should be judging these things on who makes the playoffs or who makes the conference championships. It's more and recent data. It's about the value of the running back position, the historical data on the return of selecting a RB within the top five/ten (detrimental), and the amount successful orgs actually need to spend on the position to get sufficient return. Everything suggests there isn't a single intelligent thing about drafting Love at our slot, nor is there a difference a top quality running back makes to the floor or the ceiling of a football team. The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced Borgonzi will absolutely not be selecting Love at #4. Supernope 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Wyatt Dorris from Nashville, Tennessee Question: Is David Bailey the best option for the Titans to select with our first round pick? Jim: I know some who think so… https://www.tennesseetitans.com/news/weekend-mailbag-jim-wyatt-answers-questions-from-titans-fans-x0604 Supernope 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormi Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 (edited) So Marshall Faulk was the 2nd overall pick in 1994, he was drafted to a 3 win Colts team. The Colts averaged 4 wins per season in his tenure until he up and left for greener pastures. In between 1994-1998, Marshall Faulk was 9th in total rushing yards, behind players like: - Terrell Davis (196th pick in 1995) who won SBs in Denver in 97 and 98. - Ricky Watters (45th pick in 1991) who won a SB in SF in 94 He was also outrushed by guys like Chris Martin (74th pick in in 1995) and Chris Warren (200th pick in 1990). Even if Love is Faulk, on the 2025 Tennessee Titans, that is a bad pick. If Love is Saquon or Bijan or Jeanty, that is a bad pick. Edited April 11 by stormi TheBukafax, and Pragidealist 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TerryBoats Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 3 minutes ago, stormi said: So Marshall Faulk was the 2nd overall pick in 1994, he was drafted to a 3 win Colts team. The Colts averaged 4 wins per season in his tenure until he up and left for greener pastures. In between 1994-1998, Marshall Faulk was 9th in total rushing yards, behind players like: - Terrell Davis (196th pick in 1995) who won SBs in Denver in 97 and 98. - Ricky Watters (45th pick in 1991) who won a SB in SF in 94 He was also outrushed by guys like Chris Martin (74th pick in in 1995) and Chris Warren (200th pick in 1990). Even if Love is Faulk, on the 2025 Tennessee Titans, that is a bad pick. If Love is Saquon or Bijan or Jeanty, that is a bad pick. Myles Garrett is one of the best pass rushers and overall defensive players of all time. The goal is to make the entire team competitive, and have the elite players win you SBs. There's no individual player who is going to make a good team out of an awful one. Pragidealist, and Justafan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormi Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 The Gibbs argument is so retarded btw. The 2022 Lions were a 9 win team and had just come off consecutive bad seasons where they selected pillars like Sewell and Hutchinson within the top 10. They were much farther along and on the cusp of exiting their rebuild, hence them selecting 12th. The Titans are a 3 win team with one of the worst point differentials of the past 20 years and people think adding a running back is an adequate solution. Please grow up. FireInTheHole 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Per this model, Tate is the 55th best prospect. japan, IsntLifeFunny, and Justafan 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormi Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 3 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: Myles Garrett is one of the best pass rushers and overall defensive players of all time. The goal is to make the entire team competitive, and have the elite players win you SBs. There's no individual player who is going to make a good team out of an awful one. It's doing a case study about how the teams that win are conducting themselves. It's a deeper discussion about what positional value actually means. It's not just about Love. Drafting Sonny Styles or Caleb Downs 4th overall would be just as retarded. Why? You do not waste premium draft capital on non-premium positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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