Justafan Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 42 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: When you're asked to run vertical routes where most of the yards on the play come before the catch the chances are higher you're not going to see many yards after the catch and Tate's usage on deeper developing plays seemed to go up in 2025. AJ Green... yes, I will wear that comp completely out before the draft is over... didn't have big YAC stats either. So what? Tell it to the scouts. I'm just repeating what the man said. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stormi Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 2 hours ago, oldschool said: One of the weakest arguments against taking love is that the Titans don't have an OL and supporting casts to support him ala Jeanty and the Raiders last year. Makes no sense lol. I think the simplest and easiest argument against RB is the historical evidence of shitty teams making bad decisions at the top end of the draft and reaping absolutely no reward from it. the 4th overall pick is going to be, what, 4% of the cap? It's just horrific process for anyone with a brain and an attention span longer than tiktok mixtapes. If you absolutely must draft skill because you're a petulant child, you go Tate over of Love 100/100 times. BeedoeLaw, and Supernope 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 4 minutes ago, Justafan said: Tell it to the scouts. I'm just repeating what the man said. Beddingfield wouldn't listen even if I did. I'm just responding to what he said with what I understand. I've got no problem being wrong about Tate. I'm open to whoever Don Borgleone wants to bring in. I'm just enjoying the process in the meantime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, Justafan said: Tate nation is going to like hearing what Beddingfield had to say on the PK podcast aboout him. No run after catch ability. More of a #2 type at the next level. Not a huge Beddingfield subscriber but he's just another in a long list of actual NFL scouts who have said Tate looks like a #2 at the next level. A damn good number 2, but that's what he is at the next level. He isn't dynamic enough to force defensive coverage adjustments. Justafan, and Pragidealist 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pragidealist Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 18 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: A damn good number 2, but that's what he is at the next level. He isn't dynamic enough to force defensive coverage adjustments. Yes... With Cam.. and his back shoulder throws and his tight window throws (many that Ayo dropped) Tate would likely add a lot. I think Tate is a natural and fantastic #2 and I think he woudl still really help the offense and Cam. I also think he's a bit of a reach normally at 5.... but if the team just hates RB at 4 or Love is gone- I'd go Tate bc of his specific Titans impact (not his overall projection as a dominant WR). titanruss, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 26 minutes ago, stormi said: I think the simplest and easiest argument against RB is the historical evidence of shitty teams making bad decisions at the top end of the draft and reaping absolutely no reward from it. the 4th overall pick is going to be, what, 4% of the cap? It's just horrific process for anyone with a brain and an attention span longer than tiktok mixtapes. If you absolutely must draft skill because you're a petulant child, you go Tate over of Love 100/100 times. OK now do it for every single first round EDGE and WR. Superbowl winning teams roster mimicry is one of the worst ways to ever try and build a team or argue a point. Its not against you, I just see this everywhere and its an insanely poor thought out argument. "that 1 team won, copy that" vs "this group of teams have made the playoffs / conference championships - lets lets find their common denominators." All you've gotta do is hit on a Top 10 QB of all time! and have a brilliant HC vs some team that made it behind a an elite RB and decent QB, lost the game by a last second FG, and all of a sudden they are a bad way to structure a roster. We should be judging these things on who makes the playoffs or who makes the conference championships. It's more and recent data. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 Its post free agency and the Titans currently have 32x the amount of cap space that it would cost to pay Love over Pollard. RB contracts are almost negligible when doing team building math. The EDGE argument is the value is 3-4x cheaper than a second deal EDGE contract. IF they even hit so you get 4 cheap years. But of course there's a longer development arch, so its really like 2 good cheap years. The hit rate is also small and the chance of you actually wasting money/picks on a bust is significantly higher. Pragidealist, and TerryBoats 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeedoeLaw Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, stormi said: I think the simplest and easiest argument against RB is the historical evidence of shitty teams making bad decisions at the top end of the draft and reaping absolutely no reward from it. the 4th overall pick is going to be, what, 4% of the cap? It's just horrific process for anyone with a brain and an attention span longer than tiktok mixtapes. If you absolutely must draft skill because you're a petulant child, you go Tate over of Love 100/100 times. This argument does not work. There has been like 3 players drafted in the top 5 win a Super Bowl with the team that drafted them in the last 30 years. Supernope, and titanruss 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 Just now, BeedoeLaw said: This argument does not work. There has been like 3 players drafted in the top 5 win a Super Bowl with the team that drafted them in the last 30 years. So answer is never draft anyone in the top 5! We should have traded down last year, damn it! BeedoeLaw 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, stormi said: I think the simplest and easiest argument against RB is the historical evidence of shitty teams making bad decisions at the top end of the draft and reaping absolutely no reward from it. the 4th overall pick is going to be, what, 4% of the cap? It's just horrific process for anyone with a brain and an attention span longer than tiktok mixtapes. If you absolutely must draft skill because you're a petulant child, you go Tate over of Love 100/100 times. Any reason you skipped on the 2024 Eagles? titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 Yup, if only the Cowboys had passed on drafting Emmit, the Rams had passed on taking Faulk, the Titans had passed on taking George, the Steelers had passed on Bettis, the 49ers had passed on taking Hearst, the Lions Gibbs, The Seahawks Lynch.... just imagine how much better they would have been if they just found RBs in the late rounds and taken a defensive lineman you've never heard of instead! titanruss, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 36 minutes ago, Justafan said: Yup, if only the Cowboys had passed on drafting Emmit, the Rams had passed on taking Faulk, the Titans had passed on taking George, the Steelers had passed on Bettis, the 49ers had passed on taking Hearst, the Lions Gibbs, The Seahawks Lynch.... just imagine how much better they would have been if they just found RBs in the late rounds and taken a defensive lineman you've never heard of instead! If you don't take Love it's because the pass rusher is too good to pass up or Tate is considered a legit #1. The other arguments don't make any sense. BeedoeLaw, and Justafan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 2 hours ago, stormi said: I think the simplest and easiest argument against RB is the historical evidence of shitty teams making bad decisions at the top end of the draft and reaping absolutely no reward from it. the 4th overall pick is going to be, what, 4% of the cap? It's just horrific process for anyone with a brain and an attention span longer than tiktok mixtapes. If you absolutely must draft skill because you're a petulant child, you go Tate over of Love 100/100 times. Tate doesn't need your pitty draft position. NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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