IsntLifeFunny Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 17 minutes ago, ctm said: I agree about the firing but we also can't assume it's the truth that she took away play calling just because of McCormick's article. It may be true, it may not. Judging by his reaction to play calling being taken away 'i didn't have a problem with my play calling' I'm going with it's very likely. Maybe not, but the optics are terrible. japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 Amy could have said Cally had to go after the Houston game. Brinker/Borgonzi could have told her that let us make some changes to get this team going in the right direction and they told Cally he needed to make some changes to make the team competitive. Cally was told to give up playcalling duties and focus on being a head coach. The results didn't change and Amy said there is no need to keep this shitshow. Why wait for some time where it looks 'reasonable' to other people to fire the coach? Both Callahan's needed to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 18 minutes ago, titansfan said: And im saying i think its unlikely that Amy randomly got so into the weeds of football operations to mandate something as specific as stripping a head coach of playcalling duties. That's 100% a football operations decision and nothing in her past has shown her getting into actual on field decisions. Its all been about personnel decisions So you think McCormick is incorrect. Okay, that's fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 2 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Judging by his reaction to play calling being taken away 'i didn't have a problem with my play calling' I'm going with it's very likely. Maybe not, but the optics are terrible. I don't think his reaction, assuming you are correct, tells us whether Amy or someone else made the decision to strip him of playcalling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 1 minute ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Judging by his reaction to play calling being taken away 'i didn't have a problem with my play calling' I'm going with it's very likely. Maybe not, but the optics are terrible. How are the optics terrible? She knew the offense was terrible and tried to find an alternative to firing Callahan earlier by telling them to let someone else call the plays. When that didn’t help she decided to pull the plug. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 On 10/14/2025 at 7:42 AM, Jamalisms said: ... if you can't trust them to make these decisions, which are the exact type of decisions and the exact change of mentality you hired them to bring from another organization, then what the fuck are you even doing? Once again ... oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 @airmcnair22 I can't fathom how anyone can think an owner shouldn't have say in firing a HC or be involved in org level decisions. This fantasy world some of you live in is crazy talk. As I said earlier in the week, everyone reports to someone who can overrule them unless you are the owner and even then, the NFL has oversight on certain decisions. The concept that an owner should just hire someone and let them run everything otherwise they are considered a meddler is fan fiction. Now I will say if she is reaching down into day to day operations like who to play, who calls plays, game plans, etc... Thats clearly in micromanager territory and a bad thing. Justafan, and cenj 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Starkiller said: How are the optics terrible? She knew the offense was terrible and tried to find an alternative to firing Callahan earlier by telling them to let someone else call the plays. When that didn’t help she decided to pull the plug. The optics are terrible because women are emotionally erratic decision makers and men are stoic, decisive decision makers. If she simply became a man the optics would be fine. Edited October 15, 2025 by TheBukafax Mythos27, titanruss, Jamalisms, and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 36 minutes ago, titansfan said: In fact im willing to bet it was Callahan himself who may have proposed it during their Monday meetings. Amy likely just mandated something needed to change, which it did. He said in the press conference where he announced he was giving up playcalling that he had no issues with his playcalling... IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 16 minutes ago, ctm said: I doubt it. Everyone at any high executive level in any organization knows that job comes with tough spots and hard decisions. It goes with the territory and the money. This is beyond the reasonable amount of intervention they should expect from the owner. Amy could have cleaned house and allowed Borgonzi to select his own HC. Now she's made his job to find one even more difficult. No quality HC candidate wants to go to a place where the owner is making game day coaching decisions. They'll have much better options available to them. This is his one shot at being a GM - history shows that once he's fired, his career as an NFL GM is over. Because of Amy's intervention and her affinity for reprimanding her employees by firing them in as public a war as possible, he undoubtedly realizes that he may have committed career suicide. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 2 minutes ago, TheBukafax said: The optics are terrible because women are emotionally erratic decision makers and men are stoic, decisive decision makers. If she simply became a man the optics would be fine. 100% facts. You can read between the lines even here. TheBukafax, ctm, and Jamalisms 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 32 minutes ago, titansfan said: Not sure which but at least one of Borgonzi/Brinker weren't necessarily all in on Callahan. They all agreed to give Callahan another opportunity based on him being a rookie head coach, dealing with the least talented team, and because it destabilizes an organization when you dont allow development If your first statement is fact, then by way of simple deduction Borgonzi would be the guy that wasn't the Callahan fan since Brinker was on the semi-hook for hiring Callahan... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 1 minute ago, TerryBoats said: This is beyond the reasonable amount of intervention they should expect from the owner. Amy could have cleaned house and allowed Borgonzi to select his own HC. Now she's made his job to find one even more difficult. No quality HC candidate wants to go to a place where the owner is making game day coaching decisions. They'll have much better options available to them. This is his one shot at being a GM - history shows that once he's fired, his career as an NFL GM is over. Because of Amy's intervention and her affinity for reprimanding her employees by firing them in as public a war as possible, he undoubtedly realizes that he may have committed career suicide. Even if all true, you think working for Haslem, Tepper or JJ is any easier? It goes with the territory. That's why they are well paid and have historically short tenures everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 30 minutes ago, Starkiller said: She’s not making football decisions like her dad did. That was meddling. Choosing to fire the coach is her role as owner. She lost confidence in Callahan (as we all did) and made the decision it was time to make a change. That’s fine by me. It's as if you guys didn't read the OP. If McCormick is correct then that's the definition of an owner meddling. japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzyeddie Posted October 15, 2025 Report Share Posted October 15, 2025 39 minutes ago, airmcnair22 said: The issue is that her confidence in certain people (in this case Callahan) is overriding her confidence in her actual football people — Brinker and Borgonzi. She’s the owner, so yeah, she can do whatever she wants. She owns the team, I get that. But what football logic or reasoning is she using to make these decisions? I don’t think there is any. It’s perfectly fine to be frustrated with the product on the field or to lose patience, but that’s exactly why you hire football people — to make those calls with a clear head and long-term plan. At some point, you have to trust them to do their jobs. but it does seem as though none of these MFs were doing their jobs...at least not very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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