titanruss Posted September 23, 2025 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 14 minutes ago, ctm said: Calling plays was part of his job duties. So, yes, he was hired to call plays. But not because he had experience at it. There is a difference. He wasnt required to call plays, it was his choice. He wasnt hired because he was caller and he was free to have a pla-calling OC. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post airmcnair22 Posted September 23, 2025 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 FWIW Nick Siriani gave up play calling a few years back. People were saying he was in over his head. That team started 2-5 and ended 7-3. I’m aware that we don’t have the Eagles personnel but my point is that even with great offensive personnel they still weren’t doing well. Handing the keys to someone else helped the offense and helped Siriani as a head coach. We have more problem than just play calling and game management, but maybe those 2 things improve https://clutchpoints.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/eagles-news-nick-sirianni-play-calling-change-super-bowl-success Callidus, titanruss, Starkiller, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 3 minutes ago, airmcnair22 said: FWIW Nick Siriani gave up play calling a few years back. People were saying he was in over his head. That team started 2-5 and ended 7-3. I’m aware that we don’t have the Eagles personnel but my point is that even with great offensive personnel they still weren’t doing well. Handing the keys to someone else helped the offense and helped Siriani as a head coach. We have more problem than just play calling and game management, but maybe those 2 things improve https://clutchpoints.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/eagles-news-nick-sirianni-play-calling-change-super-bowl-success japan, woolfolksunclesuncle, and titanskick8851 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 5 minutes ago, titanruss said: He wasnt required to call plays, it was his choice. He wasnt hired because he was caller and he was free to have a pla-calling OC. You guys are insane if you don't think Callahan was pushing his ability to run an offense with him as play caller as a reason to hire him. It's ridiculous. titanruss, rns90, Justafan, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 13 minutes ago, tgo said: I know Vrabel's staff had a somewhat similar division of labor on offense. Vrabel was a fairly well known micromanager. He wanted to control everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 Just now, IsntLifeFunny said: You guys are insane if you don't think Callahan was pushing his ability to run an offense with him as play caller as a reason to hire him. It's ridiculous. No, they hired him because they really wanted to experience the Nick Holz playcalling adventure! Yeah , it’s ludicrous. titanruss, and IsntLifeFunny 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: You guys are insane if you don't think Callahan was pushing his ability to run an offense with him as play caller as a reason to hire him. It's ridiculous. 2 minutes ago, rns90 said: No, they hired him because they really wanted to experience the Nick Holz playcalling adventure! Yeah , it’s ludicrous. He sold his experience and ability to develop QBs. Him wanting to call plays was something we were ALL concerned about. JFC. it's like you guys don't remember things beyond a couple weeks. Edited September 23, 2025 by reo titanruss, Mythos27, and IsntLifeFunny 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 15 minutes ago, ctm said: I agree it's not a positive. Never said it was. He's in trouble and the only thing that will save him is winning. Yup. The idea he won't get credit for it is the crazy part lol. That being said its unlikely the team turns it around enough to save his job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 1 minute ago, rns90 said: No, they hired him because they really wanted to experience the Nick Holz playcalling adventure! Yeah , it’s ludicrous. Like I get it we didn't fire him so he has a chance to right the ship. Good for him and the team I guess. Whatever it's fine and not like any change we made would save the team or the season. No one came in with huge expectations anyways. To then when he's absolutely fucking demoted from a role he took on himself and absolutely told the FO and ownership he would be in command of to for some unknown reason try to use semantics to recreate history is absurd on its face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 1 minute ago, reo said: He sold his experience and ability to develop QBs. Him wanting to call plays was something we were ALL concerned about. JFC. it's like you guys don't remember things beyond a couple weeks. In what world are you living in? It sure as hell isn't reality. He told ownership he would be the play caller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 3 minutes ago, reo said: Vrabel was a fairly well known micromanager. He wanted to control everything. Yes of course, but he had Downing in charge of red zone while Arthur Smith was OC, Charles London was in charge of 3rd down when he was here, etc. reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 Just now, IsntLifeFunny said: In what world are you living in? It sure as hell isn't reality. He told ownership he would be the play caller. of course he did. JFC, man. We knew he wanted to call plays. That does not mean he was hired TO call plays. He was hired to design the offense and groom the QB. He wanted to call plays in the process so they let him. This isn't complicated. what the actual fuck? titanruss, and IsntLifeFunny 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaTitan Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 I was talking about this with a friend, and aside from McVay and Shanahan, is there any evidence that the HC who calls plays actually works in the NFL? I think this trend needs to die Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 Just now, reo said: of course he did. JFC, man. We knew he wanted to call plays. That does not mean he was hired TO call plays. He was hired to design the offense and groom the QB. He wanted to call plays in the process so they let him. This isn't complicated. what the actual fuck? You are legit an idiot. He told the FO that he could design and run an offense therefore never have to worry about losing an OC, which is what happened with Vrabel. If you can't connect the dots you're for real an idiot. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted September 23, 2025 Report Share Posted September 23, 2025 Just now, tgo said: Yes of course, but he had Downing in charge of red zone while Arthur Smith was OC, Charles London was in charge of 3rd down when he was here, etc. There was also talk about how the OL would be deciding on how to block a certain play and what techniques, etc and Vrabel would come in and just steam roll everything and tell them how to do it. Those guys were "in charge" but they weren't really in charge. imo Vrabel was one of the primary reasons the OL sucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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