SARGO24 Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 1 minute ago, TheChosenTitan said: After signing Wilson and Winston it would be idiotic I disagree. It’s 14M in GTD deals. Not a major commitment …One can be cut or even traded. The Falcons dished out 100M in GTDs to Cousins and immediately drafted Penix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenTitan Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 1 minute ago, SARGO24 said: I disagree. It’s 14M in GTD deals. Not a major commitment …One can be cut or even traded. The Falcons dished out 100M in GTDs to Cousins and immediately drafted Penix. If you were gun ho on getting the 1 pick you would only go for Wilson don’t see the need for Winston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, Hyperion said: Why do they need both of them? If you're taking a QB you only need one of them. I saw those signings as a hedge against getting frozen out from the QB market as a whole. Not to mention they easily could flip one of them in TC or in season to a team needing a vet QB if a starter or high end backup goes down. There's also this factor. Ward may not be able to start day 1. Same with Sanders. With a regime that needs to win some games, you could see a scenario where Ward sits and learns for a bit. SARGO24 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenTitan Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 BudsOilers, GLinks, Supernope, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, TheChosenTitan said: If you were gun ho on getting the 1 pick you would only go for Wilson don’t see the need for Winston I'd don't think either or both moves that needle much. What it does do is making them less desperate than they were a week ago and elevates their floor of QB play short term. That said, they IMO were never going to give up 3 1's and the real question is what the Titans true asking price would be. I'd have to think that it's not coincidental that the Titans upped their price following the Ward Pro Day and same day Wilson signed with the Giants through the NFL media guys. Maybe that means they love Ward more than ever. Maybe it's a chess move to get the Giants to offer 2 1st rounders plus some day 2 picks. SARGO24, and TheChosenTitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARGO24 Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: I'd don't think either or both moves that needle much. What it does do is making them less desperate than they were a week ago and elevates their floor of QB play short term. That said, they IMO were never going to give up 3 1's and the real question is what the Titans true asking price would be. I'd have to think that it's not coincidental that the Titans upped their price following the Ward Pro Day and same day Wilson signed with the Giants through the NFL media guys. Maybe that means they love Ward more than ever. Maybe it's a chess move to get the Giants to offer 2 1st rounders plus some day 2 picks. This guy gets it. The art of the deal!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: I'd don't think either or both moves that needle much. What it does do is making them less desperate than they were a week ago and elevates their floor of QB play short term. That said, they IMO were never going to give up 3 1's and the real question is what the Titans true asking price would be. I'd have to think that it's not coincidental that the Titans upped their price following the Ward Pro Day and same day Wilson signed with the Giants through the NFL media guys. Maybe that means they love Ward more than ever. Maybe it's a chess move to get the Giants to offer 2 1st rounders plus some day 2 picks. I’m going to go with Occams Razor that Ward is locked in as the pick(They know giants won’t offer 3 firsts). The film crew shit is the biggest give away. This wouldn’t entice Schoen to think he should offer more. It would make him think he’s wasting his time negotiating. Nash 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: I'd don't think either or both moves that needle much. What it does do is making them less desperate than they were a week ago and elevates their floor of QB play short term. That said, they IMO were never going to give up 3 1's and the real question is what the Titans true asking price would be. I'd have to think that it's not coincidental that the Titans upped their price following the Ward Pro Day and same day Wilson signed with the Giants through the NFL media guys. Maybe that means they love Ward more than ever. Maybe it's a chess move to get the Giants to offer 2 1st rounders plus some day 2 picks. Titans are not coming off Ward without an offer that includes 3 first round picks. I think it is both of these things, not an either or. They like Cam more than ever. They have also gotten to know Cam the person as opposed to just a prospect they have viewed on tape and see a future with him in the building--this social/emotional connection matters more than people realize. The trust his confidence and energy. I also think they are communicating directly with the Giants--this idea of "chess" I imagine these two front offices are very clear with each other at this point about where things stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenTitan Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 https://x.com/richjohnsonnfl/status/1905250021764706544?s=46&t=BXOuo627AXnnsLAwTRGy7g don’t know how trusted this guy is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARGO24 Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 1 minute ago, TheChosenTitan said: https://x.com/richjohnsonnfl/status/1905250021764706544?s=46&t=BXOuo627AXnnsLAwTRGy7g don’t know how trusted this guy is It’s a parody account. His name is literally Dick Johnson and it says parady in his Twitter handle… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, TheBukafax said: I’m going to go with Occams Razor that Ward is locked in as the pick(They know giants won’t offer 3 firsts). The film crew shit is the biggest give away. This wouldn’t entice Schoen to think he should offer more. It would make him think he’s wasting his time negotiating. There's no evidence the asking price is the minimum they'd accept. Especially if the buyer's previous offer was considered a low ball one..... I don't think the Titans Film Crew attending means anything. Dollars to donuts they show up next week at the Colorado Pro Day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 Disagree BUD, the film crew has to be for marketing purposes, when the team chooses him.. I don't think it's to influence the Giants in any way, that's just too Machiavellian even for Brinker/ Borgonzi.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 6 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: There's no evidence the asking price is the minimum they'd accept. Especially if the buyer's previous offer was considered a low ball one..... I don't think the Titans Film Crew attending means anything. Dollars to donuts they show up next week at the Colorado Pro Day. If the film crew does go to Colorado I will cede. If there is no film crew I hope we can all put this media spin behind us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, Nash said: Disagree BUD, the film crew has to be for marketing purposes, when the team chooses him.. I don't think it's to influence the Giants in any way, that's just too Machiavellian even for Brinker/ Borgonzi.. I think it’s all about marketing Ward because they fully expect to pick him. That said, IF they were actively trying to up the value of the pick then it would be a clever move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, Grizz said: Titans are not coming off Ward without an offer that includes 3 first round picks. I think it is both of these things, not an either or. They like Cam more than ever. They have also gotten to know Cam the person as opposed to just a prospect they have viewed on tape and see a future with him in the building--this social/emotional connection matters more than people realize. The trust his confidence and energy. I also think they are communicating directly with the Giants--this idea of "chess" I imagine these two front offices are very clear with each other at this point about where things stand. I don't believe for a second that if the Titans received an offer of 2 first rounders and an established a younger starting quality player under contract that they'd walk away because it's not a third first rounder. Just the simple move of upping the asking price as the view of Ward is higher now than pre-Combine does two things - signal teams that they need to up whatever offers they've previously made and we like Ward enough to stick and pick without a premium offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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