Mythos27 Posted October 30, 2024 Report Share Posted October 30, 2024 4 hours ago, big2033 said: 100%. But if Henry was still on this team right now that's the way it would have to be. It's 100% what would happen but it's not what should happen. Unfortunately, it's deeply entrenched NFL dogma to "protect" the QB with the running game. You just can't hide your QB. Eventually it's going to cost you. OILERMAN, big2033, and IsntLifeFunny 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted October 30, 2024 Report Share Posted October 30, 2024 2 hours ago, XAEA12 said: I prefer a more balanced run pass ratio regardless of the RB or QB., like 60/40 pass to run. I think if you pass it 40 times and run it 20 you’re making it easier on the defense to not account for the run. Especially so when you have a player who can take it to the house if you catch them slipping. You really make it worse for both the back you're force-feeding and the QB you're trying to hide. Predictability kills an offense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 The QBs for Detroit, KC, and TB are 3 of the top 4 in expected completion %- meaning they get a lot of easy completions- and their offenses are Top 10 in scoring. Detroit and TB are also top 10 in rush yards/game (KC is #13) Quality OCs make things easy for the QB, even if they are good. No1TitansFan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 This is pretty good support for @OILERMAN's argument that the offense/OL is doing all of the work for Henry. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 2 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: This is pretty good support for @OILERMAN's argument that the offense/OL is doing all of the work for Henry. That seems way off from PFF/PFR. My guess is it is because that is "per touch" and not per carry. Both Henry and Pollard seem to have taken a massive hit there - probably because they are dump off options which are usually hit immediately and facing away from the endzone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 That's not a surprising graph if you watch the games. The fact is that Henry's never been a RB who's forced a lot of missed tackles. What he does great is run through big holes and outrun 2nd level guys, often being untouched until the score or he's tackled after a long run. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 17 hours ago, TerryBoats said: The QBs for Detroit, KC, and TB are 3 of the top 4 in expected completion %- meaning they get a lot of easy completions- and their offenses are Top 10 in scoring. Detroit and TB are also top 10 in rush yards/game (KC is #13) Quality OCs make things easy for the QB, even if they are good. Hmmm notice the line between all three of those teams? They all have good to great QBs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 55 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Hmmm notice the line between all three of those teams? They all have good to great QBs. Yet they are attempting some of the easiest throws in the NFL. Goff is the only one who's exceeding the expected completion % by a meaningful degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 22 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: Yet they are attempting some of the easiest throws in the NFL. Goff is the only one who's exceeding the expected completion % by a meaningful degree. Your argument is a poor one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 (edited) 24 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Your argument is a poor one. You got me. I guess the NFL they wasted everyone's time all of this tracking equipment in the balls, player equipment, and field to capture data for every single player's exact position and movement speed on the field during every second of the game. Edited October 31, 2024 by TerryBoats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 Do missed tackles count as arm tackles? Does that chart account for elite vision, speed, or arm tackles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 3 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: You got me. I guess the NFL they wasted everyone's time all of this tracking equipment in the balls, player equipment, and field to capture data for every single player's exact position and movement speed on the field during every second of the game. I'm sure you'll enjoy digging into those stats that are next to meaningless. No one is defending Callahan. You're just using a poor argument to attack him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 10 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I'm sure you'll enjoy digging into those stats that are next to meaningless. No one is defending Callahan. You're just using a poor argument to attack him. I didn't say anything about Callahan. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 13 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: I didn't say anything about Callahan. What a wasted moment to have a conversation. You obviously were pointing at Callahan. You're off the rails a good bit, but I enjoy our discussions. Come on now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Andbeans Posted October 31, 2024 Report Share Posted October 31, 2024 6 hours ago, BudsOilers said: That's not a surprising graph if you watch the games. The fact is that Henry's never been a RB who's forced a lot of missed tackles. What he does great is run through big holes and outrun 2nd level guys, often being untouched until the score or he's tackled after a long run. If only other RBs could learn to run through the big holes. Mythos27, XAEA12, and CreepingDeath 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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