TampaTitan Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Whoever we hire, I hope he knows how to properly tank for a QB in the 2024 draft. Drake Maye? Thrill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 hours ago, kgsTitan said: And the Packers and Falcons thought LaFleur and Arthur were the geniuses....lol suckers! theres plenty of proof to say that Arthur is a genius. Thrill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaTitan Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 hours ago, oldschool said: It does make you wonder if AAS came to this realization over the last few years and this past Sunday it just boiled over. I told y’all who the eliete one is. It’s been Vrabel all along. stability starts at the top. This roster turned into a disaster so quickly…. I love AAS for being decisive. Vrabel is the one to build around…. I just hope we done lose him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOPEZ Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 MANNN!! Bout time he should have been gone with his dumb ass moves!! This is CHESS NOT CHECKERS!! Bud Adams giving the thumbs up out of his grave!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BlueThunder said: Come on ctm, he doesn't meet anyone's standards. With the exception of TGO and Japan. There were some others. I took a beating when I said the team should have waited on an extension to see how the season played out. I don't remember anyone agreeing with me. Edited December 6, 2022 by ctm Bluth, IsntLifeFunny, and Mythos27 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post titanskick8851 Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) Okay...wow what a day. Stunning news to say the least. Took the time to read the thread and get caught up. I think everyone has touched on one thing or another, but this is definitely an interesting move. It does seem like some sort of power play happened. Looking at it: - Vrabel saying AJB would never be traded as long as he would be coach and then getting traded by Jrob - Vrabel's reaction on draft night after the trade - The whole back and forth after the Brown trade - Vrabel's recent "who" would you throw it to comments stuck out - The Simmons article comes out - The OSU Vrabel article comes out - AJB kills us All that gave Vrabel the ammo needed to succeed. I definitely think Vrabel saw the roster for what it was. It was frustrating and definitely makes his job and the coaches job harder when there is a clear lack of talent. It will be interesting to see what/if anything else comes out from Robinson's sources about the situation, but the AJB trade was the final nail, in addition to the lack of depth at OL and WR. As many mentioned there were misses in free agency and the draft and Robinson failed to take us to that upper echelon of NFL teams. We were fringe and almost there, but this off-season and the resulting on-field product leaves a lot to be desired. I mentioned last off-season, even before the AJB trade that it seemed like Robinson and Vrabel were not as quite on the same page as they once were. Something seemed off. I mean, we call now rest assured AAS is serious about this time and getting us to the promise land. How we move forward now with Vrabel and his larger fingerprints on the overall roster will say a lot in the coming months and years. I think we can look back at some things: Whisenhunt eventually got fired for his mishandling of the OL and failing to protect Mariota. The same thing is happening with Robinson now, only he is the GM and not the head coach. People are being held responsible, which is good to see. We thought it might be players getting benched or the OC getting canned, but it starts up top. We were failing there and the Eagles game plainly showed that. I will always be fond of Robinson because of how he took us from NFL to being a consistent winner (and we all as fans drastically need that), but like how we moved on from Mularkey to Vrabel despite success, we need more out of the GM to make us the contender that can consistently compete with the top teams in the league. Hopefully this is the start of something better and a new plan takes fruition in the coming months. Who knows, maybe Daley starting was a Robinson mandate since he traded for him lol. We can all have hope someway right? Edited December 6, 2022 by titanskick8851 Bluth, titanruss, LOPEZ, and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTitan Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 While the timing was surprising, if you think about it the stance on JRob had been gradually getting pretty dire around here even if it wasn't necessarily overtly so. Just yesterday I was part of a discussion about seeing a guy like Woolen shine as a late round pick while Farley busts it up as a 1st. Just too many negatives around his decisions of late. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaTitan Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 We probably won't ever know the answer to this but I am super curious if this was mainly a decision that AAS made after coming to her own realization, or if Vrabel influenced it. I can see it both ways but lean more towards the latter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanskick8851 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, tgo said: Compton is the second person I've seen say this. Mike Herndon also thought Vrabel would make him the new GM. That would be kind of a laughable GM hire. If you have ever seen Game of Thrones, Streicher would be Little Finger! tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanskick8851 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, bondra316v2 said: I wonder what the odds are that JRob ends up in Indy? With 4 years of pay in his pocket, I imagine he takes some time away from the game and spends time with the family now. ChemEngr79 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanskick8851 Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Jonboy said: Which is just shocking considering how much it seemed like those 2 were in lock-step with each other the whole way. I really think the AJ situation is what tipped everything over the edge though. Again, I mentioned it in the off-season, these two haven't necessarily been on the same page for awhile now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 titanruss, oldschool, Starkiller, and 3 others 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, tgo said: Whoa no way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) His drafting in the 1st wasn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be. 3 guys are good starting players (1 All Pro), 3 are busts, 1 is a Top 3-5 DT, and 1 is TBT but certainly looks like he'll be a good or maybe even great player. For a team which was constantly winning and drafting at the end of each round, that's a reasonably good hit rate, especially considering that he found All Pro and starting talent outside of the 1st Where he sucked was keeping quality players he drafted/signed and signing players in FA. It led to an accumulation of lost talent, wasted picks, and wasted money. He seemed to want to go after the shiny toys instead of sticking what was working for him, which was building through the draft and finding cheaper quality players on the market . He overestimated his own savvy and resourcefulness Edited December 6, 2022 by TerryBoats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, tgo said: Wow. cenj, SleepingTitan, and tgo 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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