SleepingTitan Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 1 hour ago, rns90 said: Let’s be honest. She owns the team . Thats different. She isn’t butting in on some complicated business matter. Her only “expertise” that’s she needs is answering a yes/no question that’s been answered before by her: is this the right coach moving forward for our team? I would've fired him when he started the rookie's first "series" taking snaps in his own end zone + didn't know the rules of the game he was coaching rns90, and ChesterCopperpot1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Callahan in-game has been atrocious. His game plans have been atrocious. His challenges: atrocious. I don't know a single thing he's done well except "he's nice and honest." Couldn't have been a more juxtaposed Vrabel hire. I'm tired of this shit. Give me a coach like MLF, a young OC with creative talent or fuck off and sell the team. But the decision to make a change at HC wasn't meddling or wrong or dysfunctional. Hiring a nepo baby who never called plays: now that's dysfunctional. And I know she relied on Brinker for that decision. Fire his ass too. DCTitan, ChesterCopperpot1, and croatian22 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 1 minute ago, oldschool said: What I said is that they didn't have a clear plan to execute the firing on Monday. Honestly you can argue they should have been prepared for it because it was clear Callahan lost the team and the team was getting worse each week. I'm not sure why some think the bye was worth waiting for. Callahan was done here and there was no point waiting to make a move. business 101. lol at the idea the new HC is now saddled with Ward. This isn't a Levis situations. The new HC will view Ward as a major asset like Vrabel did Maye. I don't get the infatuation with total org teardown to ensure the GM, HC, and QB all arrive at the same time. How often does that even happen? have teams that do it that way have more success? They didn't have a plan because the decision was 100% AAS (as you said!), and they looked stressed (as you said!) at the presser because they did not expect this to happen. Clearly the football guys didn't want to do this. AAS did it for non-football reasons (as you said!). If you think firing him now is the right call, explain why you think Brinker and Borganzi wanted to allow him to keep coaching and why that doesn't make their football judgment suspect. airmcnair22, Mythos27, oldschool, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 1 hour ago, Titans279 said: If you think firing him now is the right call, explain why you think Brinker and Borganzi wanted to allow him to keep coaching and why that doesn't make their football judgment suspect. I've said this as well but ... if you assume (as I think everyone does because I haven't heard anyone say otherwise) that they would have fired Callahan at the end of the year then it's really just a question of when is best and what are you risking and how does it play out. It's less about whether or not they recognize he's a problem. How do stable, successful organizations make decisions? I can easily imagine that people who come from stable, successful franchises will rate staying the course as a smaller risk than the instability that arises from foundational leadership changes, whereas people who are sick of losing and impatient for success will see removal of perceived rot as preferable to stay the course. I would have personally fired the guy weeks ago, if not in the off season, but it's my perspective that this type of judgment is the exact reason you have these guys in place. Overriding their will, even if I would independently do what you're doing in overriding it, is a bad indicator for an owner already prone to changes of course. Titans279, oldschool, Mythos27, and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
croatian22 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Mike Vrabel is such a great guy. I'm his biggest fan VaTitan, and Supernope 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 1 hour ago, TheBukafax said: Oh shit they fired Asst. Tom Jones. Can’t believe they just did that when they fired Callahan 2 days ago. Shows how damaged this org truly is. There was no cohesive firing strategy to align them to happen at once. This is erratic behaviour, the teams doomed. I dont think i care. IsntLifeFunny, Jamalisms, and Mythos27 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 1 hour ago, SleepingTitan said: I would've fired him when he started the rookie's first "series" taking snaps in his own end zone + didn't know the rules of the game he was coaching He was basically on thin ice. Ship up or shape out. You’re on you’re last chance etc. He crashed and burned in a spectacular fashion where they had to fire him. Gotta admit I didn’t expect this level of confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IowaOiler Posted October 15 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 15 I think for most of us, the question isn't whether it was valid to fire Callahan. The question is about our own faith in B&B to make good football decisions while also acknowledging that they were at least somewhat unprepared for this firing. Mythos27, IsntLifeFunny, Omar, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTitan Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 This is such a nothing story. "Likely" the "impetus"? well no shit. That could just mean she was stressing the need for change and someone in the football ops hierarchy put forward stripping play calling duties. It doesn't actually have to suggest she came up with the idea and enforced it, strictly based on the definition of words used. Also, obviously her fingerprints were on how the firing went down. Would be pretty much impossible for them not to be. Nothing story. rns90, Tnasty, Callidus, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaTitan Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Vrabel is about to curb stomp us into oblivion. I thought it couldn’t get worse than when AJ did it, but the cumulative effect makes this way worse Supernope 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinx81 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Probably just trying to light a fire under his ass in desperation. Everyone saw the writing on the wall it was just a matter of when. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 32 minutes ago, OzTitan said: This is such a nothing story. "Likely" the "impetus"? well no shit. That could just mean she was stressing the need for change and someone in the football ops hierarchy put forward stripping play calling duties. It doesn't actually have to suggest she came up with the idea and enforced it, strictly based on the definition of words used. Also, obviously her fingerprints were on how the firing went down. Would be pretty much impossible for them not to be. Nothing story. So, basically... if in doubt, zoom out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinx81 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 1 hour ago, croatian22 said: Mike Vrabel is such a great guy. I'm his biggest fan ScreenRecording_10-15-2025 17-46-59_1.mov Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 2 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: So, basically... if in doubt, zoom out. lol or this easy one: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 (edited) It's okay to admit that we may be in a call is coming from inside the house type situation. What we do know is the entire situation and transition looks unorganized. Given the state of the team and our recent history it's a bad sign and shows organizational dysfunction. Those are facts regardless of whether she mandated a change be made to the coaching structure (taking the play calls away). Edited October 15 by IsntLifeFunny Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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