Callahan gives playcalling to Hardegree (QB Coach)

[Thrill]

10 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

The problem is each time you turf out a coaching staff you face the prospect of looking for completely different traits for particular positions.

 

What happens if the next OC and OL coach want to go back to an outside zone run scheme and the last couple of years they have been stacking guys for a more gap/duo Bill Callahan run scheme.

Totally agree. When we ultimately fire Callahan, I really need to hear PK hammer Brinker with questions about the decision to keep him after Carthon’s exit. I want to know how on board Brinker was with this lame duck.

 

The only excuse that doesn’t make this look like a giant shit show is they just didn’t like anyone in the current crop of coaching candidates and didn’t have time to go through the process of vetting dozens of coaches while also prepping for the draft. 
 

The ones I’m afraid of are: Brinker liked Callahan or AAS forced them to wait a year because she like BC.

Edited September 24, 2025 by Thrill

[tgo]

Looking through a few examples for context - 

 

Matt Nagy gave up play calling duties halfway through his four year tenure in Chicago 

Nick Sirianni gave up play calling duties in 2021

Kevin Stefanski gave up play calling last year

Brian Daboll has given up play calling duties a couple different times over the past two years. 

 

Ultimately, Sirianni is the only success story. 

[japan]

25 minutes ago, Thrill said:

Totally agree. When we ultimately fire Callahan, I really need to hear PK hammer Brinker with questions about the decision to keep him after Carthon’s exit. I want to know how on board Brinker was with this lame duck.

 

The only excuse that doesn’t make this look like a giant shit show is they just didn’t like anyone in the current crop of coaching candidates and didn’t have time to go through the process of vetting dozens of coaches while also prepping for the draft. 
 

The ones I’m afraid of are: Brinker liked Callahan or AAS forced them to wait a year because she like BC.

I'm afraid to say it, but I think it's probably your latter choice, but I think she didn't want to be paying 2 ex GMs and 2 ex coaches at the same time...

[airmcnair22]

23 minutes ago, japan said:

I'm afraid to say it, but I think it's probably your latter choice, but I think she didn't want to be paying 2 ex GMs and 2 ex coaches at the same time...

I think having paying ex coaches and ex gms absolutely has something to do with it. Doesn’t make it right but I think it’s a variable. 

[TF_Titan]

2 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Not going for it vs kicking a 57 yard FG is completely stupid, even before the incompetency that followed

 

I'd argue calling a play on third down without already knowing what you're going to do on 4th down is even more damning.

 

The more I think about that it kinda connects the dots for me in terms of what's been bugging me about his play calling in general. I said yesterday I couldn't even tell what his "scheme" was because his play calling looked so random and disjointed. But now it makes sense. Clearly he's not thinking ahead when calling plays. Each play is called based only on what's happened in the past without consideration for what he plans to do in the future. This makes me think he has a very rudimentary idea on how to attack defenses in general. Last season I was frustrated by the fact that the offense would often look great in the first half only to completely tank by the second half. That would line up with the idea that he becomes clueless once the scripted plays run out.

[cenj]

Another angle of Callahan giving up playcalling that I haven't seen mentioned yet is that even if the team improves, Callahan may not want to remain as HC if he can't call plays. 

 

I'm not sure he really wants to be a HC -- he seems like someone who enjoys designing the offense more and who might be happier just being a playcalling OC. He's mentioned how it's probably his favorite part of coaching. He's clearly not great at being a manager type who delegates to everyone else.

 

I could see him welcoming the axe this offseason.

[scine09]

8 minutes ago, cenj said:

Another angle of Callahan giving up playcalling that I haven't seen mentioned yet is that even if the team improves, Callahan may not want to remain as HC if he can't call plays. 

 

I'm not sure he really wants to be a HC -- he seems like someone who enjoys designing the offense more and who might be happier just being a playcalling OC. He's mentioned how it's probably his favorite part of coaching. He's clearly not great at being a manager type who delegates to everyone else.

 

I could see him welcoming the axe this offseason.

If he resigns because of that he's never getting a HC job again.

[Righteous]

1 hour ago, Thrill said:

Totally agree. When we ultimately fire Callahan, I really need to hear PK hammer Brinker with questions about the decision to keep him after Carthon’s exit. I want to know how on board Brinker was with this lame duck.

 

The only excuse that doesn’t make this look like a giant shit show is they just didn’t like anyone in the current crop of coaching candidates and didn’t have time to go through the process of vetting dozens of coaches while also prepping for the draft. 
 

The ones I’m afraid of are: Brinker liked Callahan or AAS forced them to wait a year because she like BC.

As I said before, this was an Amy decision.  I am quite sure she didn’t want to pay 3 GM’s and 3 HC’s. 

[cenj]

Just now, scine09 said:

If he resigns because of that he's never getting a HC job again.

 

He won't resign and he won't say that is the reason why, but I could see him not being upset if he's fired and allowed to collect his paycheck while returning to an OC role.

[scine09]

1 minute ago, cenj said:

 

He won't resign and he won't say that is the reason why, but I could see him not being upset if he's fired and allowed to collect his paycheck while returning to an OC role.

By the way, off topic, remember when you (I think it was you) said that if the Titans had a terrible season record wise then it would be clear that Ward isn't the guy.  Do you still feel that way?

 

To me it's obvious that a QB can play well, show promise but it won't be reflected in the win/loss record.

[cenj]

Just now, scine09 said:

By the way, off topic, remember when you (I think it was you) said that if the Titans had a terrible season record wise then it would be clear that Ward isn't the guy.  Do you still feel that way?

 

To me it's obvious that a QB can play well, show promise but it won't be reflected in the win/loss record.

 

I don't remember saying that.

 

I don't think him being a franchise QB can be measured in win/losses rookie year. I've generally maintained that I don't care what the QB looks like early on -- the key is to see how things look later in the season and see if there's growth. 

 

I do think a rookie QB can have success early on if he's placed on a competitive team...but the Titans are a disaster across the board (talent and coaching), so no I don't expect a rookie to magically fix a terrible franchise in his first year.

[scine09]

4 minutes ago, cenj said:

 

I don't remember saying that.

 

I don't think him being a franchise QB can be measured in win/losses rookie year. I've generally maintained that I don't care what the QB looks like early on -- the key is to see how things look later in the season and see if there's growth. 

 

I do think a rookie QB can have success early on if he's placed on a competitive team...but the Titans are a disaster across the board (talent and coaching), so no I don't expect a rookie to magically fix a terrible franchise in his first year.

Maybe it was someone else.  I thought it was you.

[IsntLifeFunny]

18 minutes ago, scine09 said:

If he resigns because of that he's never getting a HC job again.

He's never getting another HC job anyways lol

[scine09]

5 minutes ago, croatian22 said:

I would beat the shit out of Callahan because he CRIED after last seasons win against the Patriots at home. We barely beat the worst team in the league and he cries. JESUS CHRIST

No you woudn't.

[scine09]

6 minutes ago, croatian22 said:

I don't understand how soft he can be. Last week, Dolphins-Patriots game, Vrabel said before the game, guys this is gonna be a dogfight. Accept it, sign up for it. They were losing, they scored on a kickoff return and intercepted the ball later. They won the game. That's the mentality you want to have, Callahan only cries. 

They're two completely different people.  By the way some highly successful NFL coaches are just like Callahan.  The reason they're winning isn't because of Callahan's personality.