Popular Post TF_Titan Posted January 9, 2025 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 I think JRob, Vrabel and Carthon were all fired for reasons other than specific football decisions or the product on the field. I'm not saying they all didn't deserve to be fired based on job performance alone, but in all 3 cases it seems to me there were non-football related issues that ultimately led to their demise. I think in the case of JRob and Vrabel they did or said something that pissed Amy off...maybe in Vrabel's case on purpose. In Ran's case I think it was just obvious to everyone (including himself) that he was in way over his head. The bottom line is the Titans are better off with them gone. In the end they may be better off with Callahan and/or Brinker gone too, we'll have to wait and see. oldschool, Justafan, smokeater, and 5 others 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 2 minutes ago, Jamalisms said: Side note but this has always bugged me. It's like saying "RIP in peace." You can't say "he's JAG" - that sounds like something a teenage girl would say. 2ToneTerror, and Titans279 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 6 minutes ago, Jamalisms said: Side note but this has always bugged me. It's like saying "RIP in peace." sorry francis... I'll do better. you are JAG better? Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 6 minutes ago, TF_Titan said: I think JRob, Vrabel and Carthon were all fired for reasons other than specific football decisions or the product on the field. I'm not saying they all didn't deserve to be fired based on job performance alone, but in all 3 cases it seems to me there were non-football related issues that ultimately led to their demise. I think in the case of JRob and Vrabel they did or said something that pissed Amy off...maybe in Vrabel's case on purpose. In Ran's case I think it was just obvious to everyone (including himself) that he was in way over his head. The bottom line is the Titans are better off with them gone. In the end they may be better off with Callahan and/or Brinker gone too, we'll have to wait and see. 100% Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 7 minutes ago, TF_Titan said: I think JRob, Vrabel and Carthon were all fired for reasons other than specific football decisions or the product on the field. I'm not saying they all didn't deserve to be fired based on job performance alone, but in all 3 cases it seems to me there were non-football related issues that ultimately led to their demise. I think in the case of JRob and Vrabel they did or said something that pissed Amy off...maybe in Vrabel's case on purpose. In Ran's case I think it was just obvious to everyone (including himself) that he was in way over his head. The bottom line is the Titans are better off with them gone. In the end they may be better off with Callahan and/or Brinker gone too, we'll have to wait and see. Absolutely... which is why I find a lot of the debate here and other groups... entertaining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 8 minutes ago, tgo said: You can't say "he's JAG" - that sounds like something a teenage girl would say. "That's so JAG." "Oh my gaw, JAG me with a spoon." Yeah ... I always struggle with it and often elect to write it out. I don't have a great solution but it still bothers me when people essentially say "just a just a guy." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 Just now, Jamalisms said: "That's so JAG." "Oh my gaw, JAG me with a spoon." Yeah ... I always struggle with it. I don't have a solution but it still bothers me when people essentially say "just a just a guy." Get over it Jamal! Pick Your Battles! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 Just now, tgo said: Get over it Jamal! Pick Your Battles! Callidus, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 22 minutes ago, TF_Titan said: I think JRob, Vrabel and Carthon were all fired for reasons other than specific football decisions or the product on the field. I'm not saying they all didn't deserve to be fired based on job performance alone, but in all 3 cases it seems to me there were non-football related issues that ultimately led to their demise. I think in the case of JRob and Vrabel they did or said something that pissed Amy off...maybe in Vrabel's case on purpose. In Ran's case I think it was just obvious to everyone (including himself) that he was in way over his head. The bottom line is the Titans are better off with them gone. In the end they may be better off with Callahan and/or Brinker gone too, we'll have to wait and see. Not exactly a good look for the organization. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 14 minutes ago, TF_Titan said: I think JRob, Vrabel and Carthon were all fired for reasons other than specific football decisions or the product on the field. I'm not saying they all didn't deserve to be fired based on job performance alone, but in all 3 cases it seems to me there were non-football related issues that ultimately led to their demise. I think in the case of JRob and Vrabel they did or said something that pissed Amy off...maybe in Vrabel's case on purpose. In Ran's case I think it was just obvious to everyone (including himself) that he was in way over his head. The bottom line is the Titans are better off with them gone. In the end they may be better off with Callahan and/or Brinker gone too, we'll have to wait and see. Agree but relationship building/communication is critical in leadership roles. I also think the Nihill factor always gets overlooked. Robinson is kind of the unknown. I've always suspected the alcohol on the plane incident didn't help him and the pretty obvious window was closing in large part to his decisions as well....and it was pretty apparent he wanted to run it autonomously. No real proof but I think Nihill couldn't stand him (process/analytics guy vs an old school grinder) and likely helped put the daggers in. Brinker is far more compatible with Nihill background/skill set wise in comparison. Vrabel is the one where I think he dumped her as much as she dumped him. Pretty clear his leaks to media and overflowing praise for how NE was compared to other places was a dig.... Carthon's the easiest one to explain. Simply a bad hire who wasn't going to succeed no matter how much you tried to help him. japan, and Justafan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 1 minute ago, TerryBoats said: Not exactly a good look for the organization. It is actually. Its the way all orgs really work. Rarely are ppl fired bc they didn't hit a particular KPI. They are usually fired bc WHY they didn't hit it.. and those reasons are often complicated, relationship related and layered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 20 minutes ago, oldschool said: sorry francis... I'll do better. you are JAG better? You say that like it's a bad thing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 1 minute ago, Titans279 said: You say that like it's a bad thing! sadly I'm old enough to remember that series... Titans279, Pragidealist, rns90, and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 I don't get this dude... https://x.com/TDavenport_NFL/status/1877402308461388002 Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 9, 2025 Report Share Posted January 9, 2025 1 minute ago, oldschool said: I don't get this dude... https://x.com/TDavenport_NFL/status/1877402308461388002 I do. He's got a pretty clear agenda..... IYKYK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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