Titans Select DT T’Vondre Sweat, Round 2, 38th Overall

[oldschool]

6 minutes ago, Thumbtack said:

 

I think your underestimating his pass rush upside, especially if he gets down to the range he wants.

 

I've said over and over if he can contribute rushing the passer at the NFL level it will be a good pick. 

[Alcibiades]

30 minutes ago, Thumbtack said:

The thing about Sweat is who are you going to double team? Simmons or Sweat? Sweat size is just too overwhelming to block one on one.

 

I hear you, but there is no way you aren't doubling Simmons as an OL. You can't double both guys, it's true, but Sweat is slower. Just need to slow him down a bit. I still like this thinking though. Teams will have a tough time running on us, if our DEs can seal the edge. I could see dialing up some ILB blitzes with these two guys just opening up the hole. 

[FireInTheHole]

6 hours ago, SleepingTitan said:

They got talked into a bad decision. If you gotta read a mofo's diary and talk to his granny to figure out if he's a good person, he ain't. 

None of us know that yet. I don’t know why some of you insist you know the future when you really don’t. 
 

He could absolutely bust out, but he also is talented and could be a home run. Acting like you already know the outcome is silly. 

[Nash]

With 3 man corners, and the ability to collapse the pocket, opposing offenses will be forced to 1) throw quick passes, and2) throw to the tight end or a screen pass.. .. if it’s 3rd and long, Wilson dials up some exotic blitz.. should. E interesting football to watch

[heyitsmeallen]

21 minutes ago, TerryBoats said:

Saban was asked why the team never tried him at LT, despite having issues at the position

 

Doesn't sound like it was ever a consideration.  Nor did he think it was a good idea.

He was recruited to Alabama as a LT and was the #1 LT recruit in the country coming out of HS. Only started on the right because Neal was at left(future top 10 pick). After Neal left he could have switched to left but after transfers they didn’t have anyone to play right and Saban didn’t think making multiple OL changes would have been good for the team. I was skeptical at first but everything points to him being able to play LT.

[Starkiller]

25 minutes ago, Alcibiades said:

 

I hear you, but there is no way you aren't doubling Simmons as an OL. You can't double both guys, it's true, but Sweat is slower. Just need to slow him down a bit. I still like this thinking though. Teams will have a tough time running on us, if our DEs can seal the edge. I could see dialing up some ILB blitzes with these two guys just opening up the hole. 

If you watch his film, Sweat isn’t just huge, he also is really quick off the snap and has some moves. Not double teaming him is a big risk. I mean, they can run away from him to neutralize him, too. But if teams want to drop back and throw or run up the middle then Sweat is a huge threat if you block him 1 on 1. 

[reo]

5 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

You've been arguing for a bit now that the new regime wouldn't draft for need. 

 

They drafted him because they believe he's an elite talent. 

 

Both. They drafted him bc they think he's an elite talent at a position of need. Its why they got him there instead if risking trading back. 

[reo]

26 minutes ago, Nash said:

With 3 man corners, and the ability to collapse the pocket, opposing offenses will be forced to 1) throw quick passes, and2) throw to the tight end or a screen pass.. .. if it’s 3rd and long, Wilson dials up some exotic blitz.. should. E interesting football to watch

 

Sweat and Simmons requiring attention could allow Murray to have a moster year. Those 2 are going to be problems.

 

My question for Sweat will be whether or not he can improve his endurance enough ti handle the snap count of being a 3 down player.

[Justafan]

15 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

If you watch his film, Sweat isn’t just huge, he also is really quick off the snap and has some moves. Not double teaming him is a big risk. I mean, they can run away from him to neutralize him, too. But if teams want to drop back and throw or run up the middle then Sweat is a huge threat if you block him 1 on 1. 

Interior lines are going to have their hands full with Simmons, Sweat, and Day. 

[Starkiller]

11 minutes ago, reo said:

 

Sweat and Simmons requiring attention could allow Murray to have a moster year. Those 2 are going to be problems.

 

My question for Sweat will be whether or not he can improve his endurance enough ti handle the snap count of being a 3 down player.

They are going to have to rotate him regardless just because that’s what DLs do to stay fresh. That’s why I wondered if they could also draft Lovett or Boyd. Evan Anderson, too. 

Edited April 27, 2024 by Starkiller

[2ToneTerror]

56 minutes ago, Thrill said:

The complaints about a trade back are fucking dumb too. Obviously Ran tried to do that at least in the first, but was unable to. He’s not going to take Odunze or Fashanu because it’s slightly better value according to mock drafts media analysts. They had their board and it’s probably way closer to the rest of the league’s board than the draft analysts and fans want to believe. Bad draft grades are almost always just a draft analyst getting salty about a team disregarding their big boards. 

Fucking YES!

x1000

 

THIS is what has infected this board.

[Justafan]

Titans HAD to upgrade their Dline. Newton, Fiske, and Jenkins were all guys who played the same role as Simmons. I like those guys but I've told people all offseason that the Titans weren't going to draft another 3T DT because that wouldn't move the needle for the Dline.

 

Where I was wrong, or at least didn't see what they were doing, is that I thought they would go after a 5T/3-4 DE to replace Autry but instead, they slid Joseph into that role - who is MUCH bigger than Autry, and so now the need was a two gapping NT.

 

The positives are that the Titans have a much bigger and more stout Dline than last year. It will be really hard to run up the middle on these guys, and they'll have the ability to run dynamic blitzes that you simply couldn't with the personnel they had last year. The downside is that I think the pass rush is still weaker without Autry, and they may feel more need to manufacture pressure without the ability to get pressure with the front 4/5. 

 

 

[ctm]

5 minutes ago, Justafan said:

Interior lines are going to have their hands full with Simmons, Sweat, and Day. 

Then it makes sense to me to find another ILB who can blitz the gaps.  Not to mention that Murray is a 7,5M cap savings if cut next year.

[Starkiller]

4 minutes ago, ctm said:

Then it makes sense to me to find another ILB who can blitz the gaps.  Not to mention that Murray is a 7,5M cap savings if cut next year.

They could go with Ulofoshio or Magee in round 5. I’m assuming one of them lasts that long of course. 

Edited April 27, 2024 by Starkiller

[Justafan]

3 minutes ago, ctm said:

Then it makes sense to me to find another ILB who can blitz the gaps.  Not to mention that Murray is a 7,5M cap savings if cut next year.

Yea, if I'm the Titans I'm looking real hard at the LBs at 106. There will be some good prospects there.