JRob Fired. Wyatt Confirmed.

[tgo]

25 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

They lost me when I looked down the chart and saw Julio as not his fault. Taking on the contract was a huge mistake. 

 

Totally agree - but it was a popular move by and large. Robinson loved him some washed up receivers big time. 

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14 minutes ago, Jonboy said:

I'm sure someone has already suggested it in this thread, but what are the odds Irsay cans Ballard and goes all in to hire JRob? Given his obsession with overtaking the Titans, I won't be the least bit surprised if it happens. I'm sure Robinson has his own anger and frustration with how things went down. Irsay would love to channel that anger into revenge...right into a new role as the Colts GM.

 

Does this mean will get to see QC cry after every time the Colts lose to the Titans?

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3 minutes ago, Downtown said:

I'm half joking. Just funny the D gameplan is what led to an even bigger AJ day. 

 

Yeah I figured but wanted to make sure. Mcafee had a funny moment in his show the other day where he suggested JRob and Vrabes made a bet when the trade went down that if we lose and AJ tears us up then he can be fired. The idea of cach realizing we were fucked and leaning into it for spite is a fun thought.

[TheBukafax]

Is Jrob legally allowed to go out on Percy Priest and make deals if he is the GM for the Colts?

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After seeing some of the stuff that's been circulating since the firing, it seems obvious to me that the bottom line is the relationship between Vrabel and Robinson had deteriorated to the point where one of them had to go...and Vrabel was never going to be the odd man out in that scenario. That's probably why the move was made now rather than after the season. Toxic may be a strong word, but my guess is at minimum it was getting extremely uncomfortable with both of them in the building, and at that point it would start to become a distraction.

 

There's no way Amy just up and decided to do this on her own. At the very least Vrabel would have to be 100% on board with it, but my guess is he was probably the one that made it clear to her that one of them needed to go.

 

Whatever title(s) Vrabel ends up with...he will almost certainly have the primary say on roster decisions. Otherwise they'll likely end up right back in this same coach/GM conflict boat. I'm not crazy about Vrabel ending up with that much power, but I'm ok with seeing where it goes.

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4 minutes ago, tgo said:

 

Totally agree - but it was a popular move by and large. Robinson loved him some washed up receivers big time. 

And somehow 15% of Jones is better than 100% of Woods. It's crazy. 

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50 minutes ago, Jamalisms said:

 

Didn’t I say QB was a major issue?

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56 minutes ago, cenj said:

That seems crazy to me if true.

 

I don't want Vrabel making all the final decisions on draft picks, and I'm not convinced he'll be given any kind of power like that. But I imagine it's infuriating to a coach to not have say over his final roster since he's the one planning out his schemes and packages.

If that's true, I wonder if it has been Jrob putting players on the baby IR and rotating players into inactive. Kinda whack to me that the Coach wouldn't have choice over who's inactive. 

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1 hour ago, Jonboy said:

 

Did any of us even pick up on it at the time? Definitely sounds like something we would pick apart here and hyper analyze

Happened before he traded AJ too. He probably really was thinking of punching John in the face in that draft video.

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1 hour ago, Thrill said:

Oh boy. We're going to have Henry on the roster til the wheels completely fall off aren't we?

Sound familiar? Remember Fisher was still gonna pay EG top dollar when he went to Dallas. 

 

I really want him to be smarter than Fisher, but the trend lines are so similar.

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33 minutes ago, tgo said:

I’m going to go ahead and eat some crow here, @BudsOilers - 

 

The guy is a grade-A asshole, but he was right on it being a totally different game from a personnel standpoint from taking a team from shitty to good vs taking a team from good to great - where the decision making margin of error becomes incredibly thin, and the stakes are higher. The decisions around cap management become much harder and require a higher level of strategy and intelligence. 
 

So yeah - I was wrong, and @BudsOilers was right on this. Taking the lesson to heart. 
 

Also props to @oldschool for calling out my over-hyping of Robinson while recognizing that he was a good GM, but not elite. Taking the lesson to heart. 
 

But what can I say, I love me some general managers. 

 

Just because he got fired doesn't mean you're wrong. Have to let it play out. We'll know in a couple years. 

 

Plus if the new GM cuts Tannehill no one's gonna come on here saying they were wrong and Tannehill wasn't as good as they thought. Be obstinate. It's the TR way!

 

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5 minutes ago, XAEA12 said:

Sound familiar? Remember Fisher was still gonna pay EG top dollar when he went to Dallas. 

 

I really want him to be smarter than Fisher, but the trend lines are so similar.

The whole Kern situation being a point of contention is very telling. Vrabel is going to ride veterans until they're completely washed. One of Belichick's greatest traits has been moving off of guys a year or two early and getting draft capital back before it's too late. I really don't see Vrabel being that kind of guy based on how much he loves Henry (despite a clear diminishment in speed) and the Kern situation. 

 

On the other hand, Vrabel ain't trading an AJ Brown type of player if he can help it. 

Edited December 7, 2022 by Thrill

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4 minutes ago, XAEA12 said:

Just because he got fired doesn't mean you're wrong. Have to let it play out. We'll know in a couple years. 

 

Plus if the new GM cuts Tannehill no one's gonna come on here saying they were wrong and Tannehill wasn't as good as they thought. Be obstinate. It's the TR way!

 

 

Well - I think in retrospect I was clearly wrong about him being a very good to elite GM. I think he was a good GM and that I underestimated the cumulative affects of his mistakes. 

 

Looking back, I remember thinking at the time here and there that I would've done this or that instead about various moves, but got on board once the moves were made. Although I never got on board with Beasley and always thought Robinson got fleeced on the Julio trade even if the move was exciting as a fan. 

 

The last Titans jersey I bought was a Conklin jersey because I thought he would be here for the long term and would retire here, which he should have. 

Edited December 7, 2022 by tgo

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39 minutes ago, scine09 said:

I have no problem with the Jackson move.  That's way down the list.  They were the #1 seed last year without Jackson and they didn't lose that game to Cincinnati because they couldn't stop Burrow (yes I know he put up a lot of yards but I thought the secondary played well as did the entire defense).

They ended up paying 10 million to a worse CB last year before they had to draft one with their 2nd round pick (33 overall)this year

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Lol at JRob wearing a whistle at practice