Titans Get The #4 Pick In The Draft

[Pragidealist]

3 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

 

How did you miss this? 

 

[OILERMAN]

1 hour ago, Supernope said:

I think the real question on our minds is just how far does Bain have to scoot the seat forward to reach the steering wheel?

 

The guy to take off the draft board is the guy in the other car, not Bain

[OILERMAN]

I'm surprised Russini didn't break this story! 

 

She could have gotten it out of Bain!

[oldschool]

59 minutes ago, Callidus said:

Plenty of people have been hinting there is something for months. How many of them knew what the actual red flag was is the question. 

 

pretty sure NFL teams care more about this

 

 

[titanruss]

2 hours ago, Callidus said:

The topic was the physical comparisons you used as evidence were stupid because you can find physical comparisons for anyone. 

 

You said I couldn't find more than a few in the last 50 years. I found 5 in a 4 year stretch. 

 

You then added the caveat of production for the comparisons. 

 

Thats the definition of moving the goal posts. 

 

Exit: loves productions was also not that insane. I wouldn't be suprised if some of the guys I listed were in the ball park or better. 

no... the topic was pure comparisons of any kind and how they weren't remotely similar level of players being compared to them.
Production and player styles and projections were ALWAYS in the convo.  

 I then listed several websites that had comparisons of various kinds and stated one seems to be only physical traits. Of that convo, you chose to purely focus on the physical traits comparisons and ran with it, completely ignoring allll the other stuff.   
 

I doubted you could find many 6ft + and 210 plus backs with 4.34-4.38 speed
 

I found 3 in the range that I looked for and you found 5 in a larger range.  And to that I still say... OK?  That still has zero to do with the original point of overall Quality of players they are being projected to or compared to by sportswriters and scouts. 

 

JSN is also being compared to him and it makes little sense. It's simply a comparison based on their perceived lack of tested athleticism and I guess contested catch rate.  But it ignores the route versatility, size, style of play, YAC... so essentially an argument largely based purely on 40 time and 1 trait. 
 

It's ironic. 

[titanruss]

This is what this site does. It makes you want to argue inane and pointless details of arguments without relenting to the bigger picture.  
 

Tate as a Pickens comp is great. AJ Green, awesome.  Tate is a good sized dude that plays and works hard and has a shit ton of advanced metrics on his side. He could be fantastic and I'd be happy to have him. 
 

But he in zero way is being compared to the same level of players as Love is. 

[NashvilleNinja]

6 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

 

How did you miss this? 

 

 

[TerryBoats]

8 minutes ago, titanruss said:

This is what this site does. It makes you want to argue inane and pointless details of arguments without relenting to the bigger picture.  
 

Tate as a Pickens comp is great. AJ Green, awesome.  Tate is a good sized dude that plays and works hard and has a shit ton of advanced metrics on his side. He could be fantastic and I'd be happy to have him. 
 

But he in zero way is being compared to the same level of players as Love is. 

Those are pretty crazy comps.  I see him as a taller, slower Olave.  I think he'll be solid because he's technically sound and has great hands.  But he's a compliment to a true WR1, and will struggle if expected to elevate an offense like an AJ Brown or J Chase.  The Giants make sense as they already have a WR1 and Tate could operate as he did in OSU.  But he didn't even have to deal with legitimate single coverage at all times in college, let alone double/bracket coverage

[socaljake]

1 hour ago, TerryBoats said:

Those are pretty crazy comps.  I see him as a taller, slower Olave.  I think he'll be solid because he's technically sound and has great hands.  But he's a compliment to a true WR1, and will struggle if expected to elevate an offense like an AJ Brown or J Chase.  The Giants make sense as they already have a WR1 and Tate could operate as he did in OSU.  But he didn't even have to deal with legitimate single coverage at all times in college, let alone double/bracket coverage

I see him as Tee Higgins. I don't like the AJ Green comp that gets thrown around. AJ Green was the #1 WR prospect coming out of HS and was pretty much seen as elite since HS. That's not Tate.

Edited Monday at 04:25 AM by socaljake

[AussieTitanFan08]

Daniel Jeremiah just did a wild mini mock draft on Sportscenter

 

1. Raiders - Mendoza

2. Jets - Bailey

3. Cardinals - Mauigoa

4. Titans - Reese

5. Giants - Styles

6. Browns - Fano

7. Jets (trade up) - Tate

8. Saints - Tyson

9. Chiefs - Love

10. Bengals - Downs

 

The Jets trade up is interesting and ties back to something Jeremiah said last week about the Jets absolutely loving Tate.

Edited Monday at 04:31 AM by AussieTitanFan08

[OnsideKick]

 

[AussieTitanFan08]

After the Jeremiah mini mock draft I'm keen to listen to McShay's Show on Monday he mentioned late last week his weekend was filled up with scheduled calls to GM's who love trading information about what they think other teams could be up to early in the draft.

 

Does anything McShay throws out there align with Jeremiah's latest information especially regards the Cardinals potentially taking an OT at #3.

[abenjami]

How about the Cardinals trade up to #1 for Mendoza and the Raiders trade down?

[TerryBoats]

56 minutes ago, socaljake said:

I see him as Tee Higgins. I don't like the AJ Green comp that gets thrown around. AJ Green was the #1 WR prospect coming out of HS and was pretty much seen as elite since HS. That's not Tate.

That's the comparison that I originally gave.  Not necessarily as a pro comp, but the impact that he'll have.  Which is great... There are maybe 5 WR2s who can get 1,000+ yards on a competitive team.  Dallas, Detroit, Philadelphia, and TB are offenses in recent years who were able to put up great numbers with a non-elite QB because they had 2 serious WRs.  Burrow obviously put up some awesome numbers despite horrific OL and coaching.  But to me, drafting someone like that at #4  is like TN spending high picks on a Guard and RT while having a hole at LT.  You'll receive negligible returns without Addressing the most important position first.

Edited Monday at 05:22 AM by TerryBoats

[AussieTitanFan08]

2. Bailey's cream of the crop: If the Jets pick Bailey with the second pick -- a possibility that has gained traction among draft experts -- they would be getting one of the best statistical pass rushers of the last decade.

 

Bailey recorded 154 pressures in 823 pass rushes over 48 career games (34 for Stanford, 14 for Texas Tech), which computes to an 18.7% pressure rate -- tops among FBS players since 2016. His 20.4% mark in 2025 is the third-best individual season in the last 10 years.