Popular Post OILERMAN Posted October 17, 2025 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 44 minutes ago, Stan said: Call Amy a bad owner when the day she gives Watson 250 million guaranteed So judge her based on whether or not she makes the single biggest mistake in NFL history? Mythos27, IsntLifeFunny, tgo, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 That Breer interview has some good points and some bad points, which is unsurprising. The overall point that it doesn't appear she knows what she wants and quickly hops from one plan to the next, making decisions based on embarrassment more than a true plan ... spot on. Fired Robinson (after AJ Brown embarrassed them) and gave Vrabel power, quickly soured on Vrabel and sided with Ran, quickly soured on Ran, keeps the HC after a horrible year and then overrides mgmt (after having a bunch of family in Vegas to watch that debacle) to make the move early in the season instead of waiting. She's just waffling from one thing to the next. Aimless Amy. Mythos27, tgo, Titans279, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 Just now, Jamalisms said: That Breer interview has some good points and some bad points, which is unsurprising. The overall point that it doesn't appear she knows what she wants and quickly hops from one plan to the next, making decisions based on embarrassment more than a true plan ... spot on. Fired Robinson (after AJ Brown embarrassed them) and gave Vrabel power, quickly soured on Vrabel and sided with Ran, quickly soured on Ran, keeps the HC after a horrible year and then overrides mgmt to make the move early in the season instead of waiting. She's just waffling from one thing to the next. Aimless Amy. This is disingenuous which isn't a surprise. Her moving on quickly from Carthon and Callahan were the right decisions. you and others keep painting those decisions as reactionary which is laughable. She finally put the structure in place many of you wanted with a top Football guy who runs the whole show, with a GM reporting to him and the HC to the GM. So she corrects the very thing you guys bitch about but then get mad that she did so after only a year of trying to have the GM and HC report directly to her? DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 CEO farts disagrees. Shocker. Everyone else is crazy. Only you have the true insight. Enjoy! Number9, titanruss, and japan 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 16 minutes ago, oldschool said: I know a couple of Browns fans that are usually dialed in and they claim Haslam initiated the Watson trade/contract at the objection of Berry and the FO. Thats brutal, and if true is a good example of how much worse than amy it could be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 1 minute ago, Jamalisms said: CEO farts disagrees. Shocker. Everyone else is crazy. Only you have the true insight. Enjoy! Your usual contributions this morning because you can't dispute the facts. bean counter gonna count beans. This board is 1000x better when you don't post for months on end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 Derp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 1 minute ago, Jamalisms said: Derp Describes you perfectly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 "Nuh-uh. Nuh-uh." Ok, bud. Good chat. Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilerTitanHybrid Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 H Town headline coming soon... AAS run out of town! Only place she can live now is Nashville! All major cities have banned her ass! Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 52 minutes ago, oldschool said: I know a couple of Browns fans that are usually dialed in and they claim Haslam initiated the Watson trade/contract at the objection of Berry and the FO. They still have Paul DePodesta there, one of the original Billy Beane guys. I wonder if they’re still using some form of Moneyball or if that’s gone out the window. They seem to have some pretty shrewd drafts though If have to go back & look. That said I’m inclined to believe your buddies, I think Haslam probably owns the bulk of the blame for the current situation there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 Just now, Face said: They still have Paul DePodesta there, one of the original Billy Beane guys. I wonder if they’re still using some form of Moneyball or if that’s gone out the window. They seem to have some pretty shrewd drafts though If have to go back & look. That said I’m inclined to believe your buddies, I think Haslam probably owns the bulk of the blame for the current situation there. I beleive DePodesta has lost some power to Berry but could be wrong. Either way things aren't working in Cleveland and its not just about the QB. Berry has had a say in personnel going back to 2016, he was out of the org for a few yeas, but came back in 2020 with even more Power. Stefanski is in year 6 as well. Prolly time to start over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 2 minutes ago, oldschool said: I beleive DePodesta has lost some power to Berry but could be wrong. Either way things aren't working in Cleveland and its not just about the QB. Berry has had a say in personnel going back to 2016, he was out of the org for a few yeas, but came back in 2020 with even more Power. Stefanski is in year 6 as well. Prolly time to start over. Yeah I agree with you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, Titans279 said: Also I noticed the discussion somehow moved to arguing if her decisions were “meddling” or not, with the point being if it’s not meddling we can’t count it against her. (And meddling meant getting involved in decisions an owner shouldn’t be making). A nice judo flip but the point many were making was about her tendency to flip from strong endorsements to firing in a matter of months. She went from saying Ran gave us a competitive advantage in the offseason to firing him for being lazy so fast. Precisely. It's not out of line to note that as a united front, they pretty much publicly announced they were giving Callahan the season (Don't expect changes any time soon) and then two weeks later, Amy unilaterally fires him. Her being embarrassed led her to abruptly abort a plan that she and her presumably most trusted advisors agreed to mere weeks ago. That's not nothing. Edited October 17, 2025 by Mythos27 TerryBoats, and Jamalisms 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 17, 2025 Report Share Posted October 17, 2025 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Precisely. It's not out of line to note that as a united front, they pretty much publicly announced they were giving Callahan the season (Don't expect changes any time soon) and then two weeks later, Amy unilaterally fires him. Her being embarrassed led her to abruptly abort a plan that she and her presumably most trusted advisors agreed to mere weeks ago. That's not nothing. So they should have let things continue to spiral just because they planned to give him the entire year? Callahan absolutely should have been fired, the team was getting worse and not showing any growth. You don't stick by a decision based on old data just because.... Thats not being reactionary. The inflexible argument you are making is bad business. Edited October 17, 2025 by oldschool DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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