Popular Post AussieTitanFan08 Posted April 30 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 30 16 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Troupe said Will Levis is probably going to start. lol.... moron alert Well he is partially right Levis will absolutely start the 2nd half of PSG3. OILERMAN, IsntLifeFunny, Callidus, and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 23 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said: Great Value Marvin Harrison. Who did he shoot? VanCityTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireInTheHole Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 22 hours ago, TerryBoats said: If he never ran the 40 at the combine and people only judged him by his tape, everyone would be pissed instead of just underwhelmed. The only ones pissed right now seem to be you and Russ for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshimitsu Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 I’m okay with this pick and see his value on special teams, but he is without a doubt the slowest 4.34 player I’ve ever seen. Mythos27, and TerryBoats 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 23 minutes ago, Yoshimitsu said: I’m okay with this pick and see his value on special teams, but he is without a doubt the slowest 4.34 player I’ve ever seen. Ya but your like 300 feet tall and have lizard eyes, im sure everything looks slower to you Mythos27, and Yoshimitsu 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, Callidus said: Who did he shoot? Whoever was originally supposed to be the Titans pick at 103. Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, FireInTheHole said: The only ones pissed right now seem to be you and Russ for some reason. Are we not allowed to dislike a single draft pick? We don't even know these people making the picks yet. I don't think we need to give them that big a benefit of the doubt. airmcnair22 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireInTheHole Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 32 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: Are we not allowed to dislike a single draft pick? We don't even know these people making the picks yet. I don't think we need to give them that big a benefit of the doubt. It’s okay to. But it’s a damn fourth rounder. You’re making it a bigger deal than it needs to be lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 7 minutes ago, FireInTheHole said: It’s okay to. But it’s a damn fourth rounder. You’re making it a bigger deal than it needs to be lol. I wouldn't be on this forum if I had better things to do than bitch about a 4th round draft pick. TheBisco, FireInTheHole, Justafan, and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 Yeah but have you guys ever considered we now have a Chim AND a Chig? Thrill, Justafan, tgo, and 1 other 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) On 4/27/2025 at 8:54 PM, Mercalius said: Easton Freeze who love him or hate him obviously has some inside connections said that people in the NFL were way higher on the FL wideouts (in regards to Dike) than general media consensus. I haven't waded through the entire thread but this cannot be underestimated. There is a sort of triangle that is NFL front office analysis, draft prognostication, and fan opinion. Fans are the most ignorant but project the strongest held opinions. They consume lists and maybe a handful of youtube videos and feel adamant that Jalen Royals is better than Dike to the point that it is a huge "reach". I do it too and it's an absolutely fair thing to do--that's the information we have. But there is absolutely no one on this board who has put in the amount of hours of film study as NFL guys. Draft prognosticators are in the middle--with opinions formed on analysis, yes but also from relationships and dialogue. They also have to spend a lot of time making content so they are not watching nearly as much tape as NFL staff. Some are better than others because they put in more work--some of these content guys just parrot bullshit. The third corner of this triangle--the difference that people rarely talk about here is context. NFL evaluators are viewing these guys in the context of their system and situation and what they'd be asked to do in the NFL. The truth is anyone can get it wrong and there will be differences in perception and opinion. The main thing to me to avoid is the argument that "we could have waited on X guy." Like it or not, I think it we didn't take Dike he would have been pulled off the board. I think if you look at this size, speed, and flashes they were going for the home run swing. Edited May 1 by Grizz airmcnair22, OILERMAN, Mythos27, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, Grizz said: I haven't waded through the entire thread but this cannot be underestimated. There is a sort of triangle that is NFL front office analysis, draft prognostication, and fan opinion. Fans are the most ignorant but project the strongest held opinions. They consume lists and maybe a handful of youtube videos and feel adamant that Jalen Royals is better than Dike to the point that it is a huge "reach". I do it to and it's an absolutely fair thing to do--that's the information we have. But there is absolutely no one on this board who has put in the amount of hours of film study. Draft prognosticators are in the middle--with opinions formed on analysis, yes but also from relationships and dialogue. They also have to spend a lot of time making content so they are not watching nearly as much tape as NFL staff. Some are better than others because they put in more work--some of these content guys just parrot bullshit. The third corner of this triangle--the difference that people rarely talk about here is context. NFL evaluators are viewing these guys in the context of their system and situation and what they'd be asked to do in the NFL. The truth is anyone can get it wrong and there will be differences in perception and opinion. The main thing to me to avoid is the argument that "we could have waited on X guy." Like it or not, I think it we didn't take Dike he would have been pulled off the board. I think if you look at this size, speed, and flashes they were going for the home run swing. Alternatively... no doubt the fans know less about what is going on on the whole ... but there's a scout or two per team watching most of the tape on an individual player. They will cultivate their lists and pass it on to coaches who watch but have less time... they go to the higher level guys after that. Fans source info from literally hundreds of thousands of people watching tape and giving opinions. As positivity and consensus grows, players rise to the top. For example, Callahan said he watched all of the Miami tape from this year and 4-5 games from Washington State? There's probably a few hundred Titans fans alone that watched every single game available. That ignores several thousand others that aren't Titans fans. It's not exactly the same but similar to pff. Their guys dont get the all 22. They aren't perfect and don't know what play was called.. but with enough "meh" data you can get very good data. I don't think fan/amateur analysis is better than the pros, but it would be cool to see what the hit rates are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 51 minutes ago, titanruss said: Alternatively... no doubt the fans know less about what is going on on the whole ... but there's a scout or two per team watching most of the tape on an individual player. They will cultivate their lists and pass it on to coaches who watch but have less time... they go to the higher level guys after that. Fans source info from literally hundreds of thousands of people watching tape and giving opinions. As positivity and consensus grows, players rise to the top. For example, Callahan said he watched all of the Miami tape from this year and 4-5 games from Washington State? There's probably a few hundred Titans fans alone that watched every single game available. That ignores several thousand others that aren't Titans fans. It's not exactly the same but similar to pff. Their guys dont get the all 22. They aren't perfect and don't know what play was called.. but with enough "meh" data you can get very good data. I don't think fan/amateur analysis is better than the pros, but it would be cool to see what the hit rates are. Any given fan is not consuming and aggregating hundreds and thousands of opinions. A vast majority of fans are looking at a handful of sources frequently and then picking up their own more minor content creators here or there. Of course coaches and front office organizations are not comprehensive, but the point is that they have people professionally doing it as a job. Someone watching a tiktok reel of Jalen Royals while taking a shit is not the same as someone getting paid to make analysis through a professional process. Fans, on the other hand, are a collective each doing their own thing. As such, consensus is formed really differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans79 Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 4 hours ago, Yoshimitsu said: I’m okay with this pick and see his value on special teams, but he is without a doubt the slowest 4.34 player I’ve ever seen. I didn't think he was bad...but he didn't come off as someone with 4.3 speed from what I have seen from either. Never really thought he separated that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 In the end, the reason they drafted him over a guy like Royals was probably the fact that he is a punt returner. They needed a punt returned immediately. I’m sure they think he can develop into a WR, too, but return man was an immediate need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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