Titans secure picks #1 and #35 in the 2025 Draft

[TerryBoats]

46 minutes ago, Bongo59 said:

Love Burrow but lets be honest he has not had the impact in Cincy that he should have and that is because they have not fixed their OL since he got there.   

Where would they be now if they had drafted Andrew Thomas and an inferior QB?

[TWR]

1 hour ago, NashvilleNinja said:

-Titans draft Cam Ward 1 overall.

 

-Titans trade Jeff Simmons, Harold Landry, and L'Jarius Sneed plus a 4th next year to the Patriots for their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd this year, their 1st next year, and their 2nd or 3rd in 2027.

 

-Titans then draft Abdul Carter at 4, draft BPA at OL with first 2nd, either draft someone like Tre Amos with the 2nd two or trade back, take BPA DL, and fill out the roster as needed/BPA with the rest.

 

Yay? Nay?

What in the fuck madden franchise shit are you talking about 

[nine]

Something I just threw together:   a spreadsheet of every OL draft pick from 2018-2024.   (No particular reason for starting at 2018....but you gotta start somewhere.  I figure 7 draft classes provides a reasonably accurate overview.)

 

It shows

• how many total draft picks each team has used on OL over the past 7 years
• the average draft slot # of each team's OL picks.   (lower# = higher pick)
• the number of OL each team has drafted in each round

 I also added a field showing each team's OL picks in rounds 1-3, to show which teams are inclined to use premium picks and which teams typically wait until the later rounds.

 

This was literally a 20-minute exercise I put together on the fly.....so it's incredibly simple and highly flawed:   just a very basic, no-frills overview of each NFL team's draft investment in OL over the past seven years.    But the top-ten and bottom-ten results are rather interesting.

 

Based on the number of picks and the average value of those picks,  here are the ten teams that have made biggest OL investment since 2018:

 

The teams with the least draft investment

 

 

[NashvilleNinja]

5 minutes ago, TWR said:

What in the fuck madden franchise shit are you talking about 

 

It's a TR Special.

 

[9 Nines]

Trade with Giants:

 

3. Cameron WardQB Miami (FL)

35. Aireontae ErseryOT Minnesota

65. Harold Fannin Jr.TE Bowling Green

76. Xavier RestrepoWR Miami (FL)

101. Cam SkatteboRB Arizona State

102. Shemar TurnerDT Texas A&M

104. Gunnar HelmTE Texas

119. Kaden PratherWR Maryland

132. Smael Mondon Jr.LB Georgia

142. Jake MajorsOC Texas

180. J.J. PeguesDT Ole Miss

2026 DET 2nd

2026 NYG 2nd

2026 DAL 3rd

[No1TitansFan]

3 hours ago, Bongo59 said:

No QB until the OL is fixed.  You need a OG and RT.  Those are the biggest needs.  the LOS is where games are won and lost and not on the QB.  The SB just gave this lesson again.  KC last two losses in the SB were due to the OL.  https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2025/insider/story/_/id/43171016/2025-nfl-draft-board-prospects-first-round-grades-comps

There are a lot of worse outcomes to a season than losing the SB because of a sub par  OL. 

[OnsideKick]

TE Jalin Conyers is one of my favorite players in this class…. Tyler Warren ain’t the only TE to get direct snaps! Little wildcat here and even threw a TD pass! (HS QB as freshman/sophomore)

 

Tremendous size/athleticism combo at 6030 263lbs. Legit ball skills. YAC is wild.

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I'm working my way through the WRs right now. Sign me up for Ole Miss WR Tre Harris. Polished, savvy dude.

Edited February 15, 2025 by OnsideKick

[No1TitansFan]

1 hour ago, rns90 said:

Yeah , they keep on drafting these qbs with massive red flags that aren’t even lottery tickets , in that they are almost destined to fail.  That’s the problem with the let’s draft a qb in round 1 every year.

What are Ward's red flags? I'm asking serioulsy, from everything I've seen his intangibles and work ethic are off the chart, he has enough physical ability and has made some elite throws. I'm not saying he doesn't have warts, just saying his floor is mid to top ten level starter and his ceiling is top 7 or 8. Mariota was soft both mentally and as it turned out physically.

[rns90]

20 minutes ago, No1TitansFan said:

What are Ward's red flags? I'm asking serioulsy, from everything I've seen his intangibles and work ethic are off the chart, he has enough physical ability and has made some elite throws. I'm not saying he doesn't have warts, just saying his floor is mid to top ten level starter and his ceiling is top 7 or 8. Mariota was soft both mentally and as it turned out physically.

Misses easy throws where the guy is wide open and the pass is inaccurate.  Happens more than once a game.

 

Hero ball tendencies for lack of a better term, that leads to some really awful Levis level turnovers.

 

issues on on throws near/outside the hash mark.  You can tell the throws aren’t as crisp there, especially when you watch his throws over the middle.

[Bongo59]

His arm is not that great so outside the numbers he is very mediocre.  He does not have a good base and his footwork is slopy and he offers very little in escapability.  I think Drew Brees was a better prosepct when he came out and he fell all the way to round two.  He panned out but his first contract in the league was shown the door and he had elite talent around him.    

[TerryBoats]

2 hours ago, rns90 said:

Misses easy throws where the guy is wide open and the pass is inaccurate.  Happens more than once a game.

 

Hero ball tendencies for lack of a better term, that leads to some really awful Levis level turnovers.

 

issues on on throws near/outside the hash mark.  You can tell the throws aren’t as crisp there, especially when you watch his throws over the middle.

The majority of this is simply lack of polish.  Consistent accuracy will come with improved mechanics.  And we should hope that his NFL positional coaches are 10x better and more focused on this than any collegiate coach he's had.

 

He had a higher Big Time Throw % than Mahomes on plays lasting longer than 2.5 second, and lower overall Turnover worthy throw %.  So the "hero ball" thing is overblown.  Mahomes and other great QBs have ugly moments where they look like Levis as well (see the SB).  Levis is Levis not just because of these plays but because overall, he is not good.

Edited February 15, 2025 by TerryBoats

[NashvilleNinja]

43 minutes ago, TerryBoats said:

The majority of this is simply lack of polish.  Consistent accuracy will come with improved mechanics.  And we should hope that his NFL positional coaches are 10x better and more focused on this than any collegiate coach he's had.

 

He had a higher Big Time Throw % that Mahomes on plays lasting longer than 2.5 second, and lower overall Turnover worthy throw %.  So the "hero ball" thing is overblown.  Mahomes and other great QBs have ugly moments where they look like Levis as well (see the SB).  Levis is Levis not just because of these plays but because overall, he is not good.

 

Umm... what's the deal with the 2nd paragraph?

[socaltitan]

2 hours ago, No1TitansFan said:

What are Ward's red flags? I'm asking serioulsy, from everything I've seen his intangibles and work ethic are off the chart, he has enough physical ability and has made some elite throws. I'm not saying he doesn't have warts, just saying his floor is mid to top ten level starter and his ceiling is top 7 or 8. Mariota was soft both mentally and as it turned out physically.

Weaknesses

Never had completion rate higher than 56 percent in either season as a starter. Accuracy diminishes greatly when he's forced to move his feet. May have too much hero in his blood. Tries to overcome obstacles with arm talent and makes poor decisions because of it. Takes too many chances with low percentage throws. Needs to play smarter and place higher value on the ball. Fastball pitcher whose touch could use improvement short. Will baby the deep throws at times. Field-reading is spotty. Needs to be more patient in allowing combo routes to develop. Would benefit by trading some velocity for better timing. Anticipatory throws don't seem to come naturally. Pre-snap game plan appears unfocused. Breaks from pocket without cause throwing off his timing with receivers. Doesn't keep feet "throw-ready" when sliding in pocket. Frequently defaults to off-platform throws when there is time to set feet and deliver.

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-allen/3200414c-4c52-9264-bedc-c4ddaf201fe7

 

Part of a scouting report on Josh Allen.

[9 Nines]

17 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

Umm... what's the deal with the 2nd paragraph?

 

It is a new font to help left handed readers. 

[NashvilleNinja]

12 minutes ago, 9 Nines said:

 

It is a new font to help left handed readers.