MadMax Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 Just now, oldschool said: No matter how many times you say this, it's still not true. I personally know quite a few Trump Biden voters. I hope you're an anomaly because I don't. OILERMAN, and Pragidealist 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 Trump responded already: Pragidealist, Number9, and Looper 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 47 minutes ago, Little Earl said: Much more to come like this: I’m sure you guys are eagerly awaiting newly announced specious investigations against Kamala from Comer and Gym. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 The Democrats have not been this unified since the 1996 Macarena convention. Note, Hillary Clinton was an attractive first lady: Starkiller, and Pragidealist 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, oldschool said: No matter how many times you say this, it's still not true. I personally know quite a few Trump Biden voters. I'll keep saying. I talked with a marketing professor. He confirmed what I've thought. Yes- when you first ask a group- some will self-identify as swing or independents but when you push (and they have to) - they always find that they are not truly independents. And really- who is out there debating Trump or Biden or Trump or Harris? We are too polarized for that. The amount of true swing voters or independents - imo ( and based on conversations) are so few to be irrelevant. As it was with Obama, Trump and then Biden- its all about turnout. Who is more excited or determined to beat the other. After Obama- it was "not Hillary". Then "not Trump". Its "Not Trump again"- And going by today- the bubbling excitement and determination is going to match the response England and France got. I personally think the US is eager to vote that agenda down and that man out of our lives. 50 milion + in one day- backs that up more than any polls. Forget the old model. Models change. We don't have centrist and moderates. We know this bc you and I ARE moderates. And we know the stakes. Trust what you see. Warren Buffet always said when it comes to investing to trust what you know locally. The same is true here. We KNOW- that moderate- undecided voter exist only on the tiniest fringes. Turn out the dems. Turn out the youth vote and this can be a landslide. Bc traditional GOP. - ike Romney and my friend the libertarian- are not voting Trump. He's still a horrible candidate. Dems just need to turn out. Edited July 22, 2024 by Pragidealist CreepingDeath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted July 22, 2024 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 reo, begooode, MadMax, and 1 other 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 There’s no question it’s in the Dems’ best interests to unite behind Harris…similar to what Repubicans did in 2016 when it became clear Trump would be the nominee . Of course, the difference here is that the people who will be lining up to endorse Harris weren’t denouncing her as a useless and amoral piece of shit two weeks earlier. MadMax, and Pragidealist 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 1 minute ago, tgo said: Visa and Mastercard had a helluva Sunday afternoon. CreepingDeath, and tgo 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, tgo said: That my friends is a "true" poll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: I'll keep saying. I talked with a marketing professor. He confirmed what I've thought. Yes- when you first ask a group- some will self-identify as swing or independents but when you push (and they have to) - they always find that they are not truly independents. And really- who is out there debating Trump or Biden or Trump or Harris? We are too polarized for that. The amount of true swing voters or independents - imo ( and based on conversations) are so few to be irrelevant. As it was with Obama, Trump and then Biden- its all about turnout. Who is more excited or determined to beat the other. After Obama- it was "not Hillary". Then "not Trump". Its "Not Trump again"- And going by today- the bubbling excitement and determination is going to match the response England and France got. I personally think the US is eager to vote that agenda down and that man out of our lives. 50 milion + in one day- backs that up more than any polls. Forget the old model. Models change. We don't have centrist and moderates. We know this bc you and I ARE moderates. And we know the stakes. Trust what you see. Warren Buffet always said when it comes to investing to trust what you know locally. The same is true here. We KNOW- that moderate- undecided voter exist only on the tiniest fringes. Turn out the dems. Turn out the youth vote and this can be a landslide. Bc traditional GOP. - ike Romney and my friend the libertarian- are not voting Trump. He's still a horrible candidate. Dems just need to turn out. The above is missing some dry powder: Biden was leading with 60+ age group. That will transfer. Trump's margins will dry up, from running against a younger candidate now, faster than his hourly hairspray applications dry holding his combover together. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 (edited) For the last month America was looking likely to go down the Nazi combover road, but in the blink of an afternoon, we might be well looking at the first woman president and the second African American. America is chaotic but magical: Edited July 22, 2024 by 9 Nines Number9, MadMax, chef, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rogue Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, tgo said: I feel like the people truly following this, that might have been reluctant for Biden dropping out, know the optics and are projecting to the DNC we are not bypassing Kamala. Some comfort the establishment is paying attention. oldschool, nine, and Pragidealist 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 Hillary part deux. Welcome to another Trump Presidency idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted July 22, 2024 Report Share Posted July 22, 2024 4 hours ago, Titans279 said: You dropped this Typical lol call anyone a nazi or Jew hater when they oppose isreal. Lol you realize how much influence isreal has in our us government ? How much aipac pays both sides of our politicians ? It’s scary that Americans are not waking up to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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