Number9 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, BudsOilers said: Karen you so funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAEA12 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 9 hours ago, Jamalisms said: As ever, the delusion is remarkable. People (I'm sure yourself included but I don't recall specifically and simply don't care enough to look) claim Henry isn't that good, in part because he's not versatile and could only succeed on the Titans where everything is geared to feeding him. I disagree. He then goes to a team that is "a complete 180 the opposite" and looks as good as ever. Instead of being willing to admit that take was always absurd, your takeaway is that the Titans should have been running a different offense? Oh, and he's still too limited. There's two perfect, lucky situations he fell into. One where he's the entire focus and then one that's the "complete opposite." But he'd fail at everything in-between because admitting you were wrong on his limitations is also impossible. Here's something to consider: The respective quality of Ryan Tannehill and Lamar Jackson are the main reason the two teams run/ran the offenses they did. Sorry. That’s it, end of discussion, a murder just took place Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, XAEA12 said: That’s it, end of discussion, a murder just took place It's amazing they keep running their heads into a brick wall. I think they are afraid that a lost(wrong take) will destroy their credibility. The "that's right" bunch will be confused. Confused because the evidence is so overwhelming opposite of the hill they chose to stand on they fear people may realize they are not bastions of football knowledge. Maybe, just maybe another poster could be right. So, it never ends. CreepingDeath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
croatian22 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Even though I don't agree with people like Bud and Oilerman, I respect them because they have their own opinion. It's okay to disagree and argue about some things. What's cringe to me, are guys like FireInTheHole, IowaOiler and several others, who don't have their own opinion, they are just repeating what guys that are already mentioned above are saying. Put them on forum where everyone likes Henry, or whatever player/coach and they will like their posts and agree with them. I'm here to expose those pussies. Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo59 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Henry will assualt 2K yds for the next two years running with Lamar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 This is really basic stuff and you really see who doesn't know what they're talking about. There have been a million articles and data to prove it. Throwing the ball on conflicted downs is more effective than running it, period. It doesn't matter who the RB is. The best teams pass the ball more. When Tannehill took over the Titans pass game was right around what Lamar Jackson has done the last two seasons. I'm sorry but that's a fact. Both passing games were excellent. The Titans were way more effective passing on conflicted downs than running it. Another fact. It was stupid to run the ball as much as they did on conflicted downs. There isn't some secret reason they had to do it. It's because Vrabel is a meathead. It cost them multiple playoff games in a row with Henry averaging 3 yds a pop. Even when Dobbs started vs the Jags in the elimination game they were better passing on conflicted downs. Choose to believe otherwise, you are wrong. BudsOilers, LongTimeFan, and Jamalisms 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo59 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 You've been wrong for 15 yrs mail man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: This is really basic stuff and you really see who doesn't know what they're talking about. In this thread especially, that's quite true. titanruss, and XAEA12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzyeddie Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 7 hours ago, Number9 said: It's amazing they keep running their heads into a brick wall. I think they are afraid that a lost(wrong take) will destroy their credibility. The "that's right" bunch will be confused. Confused because the evidence is so overwhelming opposite of the hill they chose to stand on they fear people may realize they are not bastions of football knowledge. Maybe, just maybe another poster could be right. So, it never ends. credibility lol Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 It is basic stuff and it's laughable and telling that the retards still don't get it and think they've won this discussion. Henry clearly isn't washed so anyone who claimed that was wrong. What isn't wrong is that he's largely dependent on a dominant run blocking OL to maximize his skill set and he clearly went to one of the few teams that has that. The fact he's getting 2.5 - 3 yards (a career high) before contact refutes any claim otherwise. That said, the whole comprehension of run/pass on conflicted downs, predictability/tendencies, and it's absolute impact on results is indisputable. Back in January 2020 after the playoff run, both @OILERMAN and I posted that if Vrabel didn't adjust his game plans for playoff games, they'd never achieve success in the playoffs. Predictably as we both had feared, Vrabel doubled down on "the formula" and never won a playoff game or play-in game again because he tried to hammer Henry on early downs with little success. Of course teams geared to stop it and rather than counteract that with an early down passing game that had a much higher success rate, he opted to win meathead style. What it did was put the offense in it's most vulnerable state - pass blocking on obvious passing downs. The 2020 Titans mirror the 2024 Ravens in a lot of ways.....The Titans actually averaged more PPG by a slight margin. Tannehill's production is slightly below Lamar's in passer rating/QBR but higher in success rate so not being more balanced on early downs was simply retarded. The bottom line is that Vrabel self neutered the offense with his playoff game plans and as a result the offense suffered and they lost. If one doesn't understand that, you're simply stupid. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 BudsOilers, smokeater, and TerryBoats 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Gonna be interesting to see if he does that without a generational RB to pair with a mediocre QB. He claims it's because Henry was so good and who would he throw to. When they gave Tannehill more passes in the playoffs, he liked to throw the ball at defenders. If history repeats itself, it's a Vrabel issue. If new situation produces a different approach, then you'll really have to consider how the situation impacted the approach ... for the first time. titanruss, XAEA12, and Number9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CreepingDeath Posted January 18 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 18 (edited) This is why I come to TR. I don't think you can get such expert analysis anywhere else such as: RBs are "maximized" with good run-blocking AND RBs get better results when defenses can't predict an offense as well. But I really like to read that over and over and over and over and over and over but in really long paragraphs. I especially like it when it comes across as condescending and righteous. It's an odd and very specific kink. Edited January 18 by CreepingDeath No1TitansFan, Mythos27, Stevenths78, and 5 others 6 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OilerTitanHybrid Posted January 18 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 18 43 minutes ago, CreepingDeath said: This is why I come to TR. I don't think you can get such expert analysis anywhere else such as: RBs are "maximized" with good run-blocking AND RBs get better results when defenses can't predict an offense as well. But I really like to read that over and over and over and over and over and over but in really long paragraphs. I especially like it when it comes across as condescending and righteous. It's an odd and very specific kink. The posting combo of Oilerman and Bud A. cannot be stopped, you can only hope to contain them! When they go into beast mode, they're like Marshon Lynch. They don't care if there's a chance they might be wrong or not, they're gonna post into a mutha fucka's face! ... over and over... and over and over ... and over and over .... and over and over and over again! They're also like the Terminator... they will keep on posting until they're fucking dead! That's what they do! THAT'S... ALL... THEY... DO! Look at 'em! BudsOilers, CreepingDeath, Number9, and 3 others 2 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepingDeath Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 52 minutes ago, OilerTitanHybrid said: When they go into beast mode, they're like Marshon Lynch. They don't care if there's a chance they might be wrong or not, they're gonna post into a mutha fucka's face! ... over and over... and over and over ... and over and over .... and over and over and over again! Goddamn, that's so true and awesome. Good job, sir! OilerTitanHybrid 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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