Bongo59 Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, rns90 said: lol at bongo. Dobbs is light years ahead of Willis. He wasn't in his first 3 yrs. He was very Geno Smith like. Guys like them need time in the oven. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Yeah they would need to lose out to get a top 5 pick. Especially when you look at the debacles in Arizona, Chicgao, Carolina, NE, and NYG rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Bongo59 said: He wasn't in his first 3 yrs. He was very Geno Smith like. Guys like them need time in the oven. Geno wasn’t that bad as a rookie and way better than Willis which is the guy you’re comparing him to. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, BudsOilers said: He has not been ripped for the mistakes, even if they are begrudgingly acknowledged, and I get it - he's a rookie. You were pretty adamant he wasn't at fault for the Spears play, which he was. I'd push back that he's played great. Better than expected and flashes of brilliance? Absolutely. But I think the wow plays have overshadowed some real issues he needs to work on. I do think the conversations internally to give him the season to get experience and improve while not worrying about getting the hook. I think the ATL game is viewed as greater than he actually played and I think he was more impressive vs Pittsburgh overall - despite having some crucial mistakes either mentally or with accuracy - that probably cost them the game. I didn't care about the Spears play lol. I've just been fucking with you. Relax a bit. After seeing the other angle and the breakdown it was indeed a bad throw, a catchable one, but still a bad throw. I agree fully with the rest. I thought he was really impressive versus the Steelers. That is a tough environment and even with some missed throws he handled the pressure well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, BudsOilers said: Yeah they would need to lose out to get a top 5 pick. Especially when you look at the debacles in Arizona, Chicgao, Carolina, NE, and NYG Given their QB situation there is a very real possibility the Giants don't win another game this year, out of those bottom 5 teams I would bet on the Bears winning the most games over the final 9 weeks of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Personally I'm not sure seeing the Titans lose 7 or 8 of their remaining 9 games is great for anybody. Probably means Levis is struggling, Vrabel's on a Whiz type cold streak, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 It's time for TanneStans to confess their sins and get right with the Lord! Like Brother Levis reminded, "Be strong and do not give up, for your work will be rewarded." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, BudsOilers said: Yeah they would need to lose out to get a top 5 pick. Especially when you look at the debacles in Arizona, Chicgao, Carolina, NE, and NYG They win at least 2 more games (Carolina and another game somewhere ,TB maybe). I can’t see them going winless in division play , I think they end up with at least 6. Gets them into 9-15 range. And either 3rd LT on the board or best available WR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 I'm going the other route and saying we win around 5 more games, including ones against all of our division opponents. Won't be great for drafting, but by the end of the year Levis is fully entrenched as the future of the franchise. atitan, and DCTitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: I was going to post this but ultimately didn't feel it was worthy of it's own thread; Levis has a chance to be the first agenda-free QB of the modern TR era. I am considering the drafting of Mariota as the beginning of that era and the football death of Tannehill as the end of that era. Levis is a guy that no one here was really all in on pre-draft and if anything some people hated him. Most however were somewhere between ambivalent and uninformed. The anti-Tannehill (oversimplification) posters are pumped about Levis mostly because of Levis but partly because he allows them to dunk on the other side. The pro-Tannehill posters aren't excited to see Tannehill go but have been impressed by Levis enough to be glad to see him take over. In short, unlike the Mariota and Tannehill era, this time there is no built in half of the board that's going to be unfairly negative towards Levis. Despite their previous agendas, everyone is rooting for him to succeed and more importantly recognizes that Levis being the guy solves our biggest problems and is the fast-track to NFL success. Levis is essentially the common ground where before there was a fissure. We'll all likely find other inane shit to call each other retards over because that's what we do but there is a chance, that for the first time in almost a decade, the QB will not be at the center of the shit talk. Any disagreement on Levis will be because of his play, not in service of a grand agenda. You almost had a thumbs up. I don't agree with the connotation of "Anti-Tannehill." Tannehill was good. And a welcome breath of fresh air from the novice QBs we've had come through on rookie contracts who could not understand the fundamentals, they just knew how to run. The issue was, while it's obvious Tannehill had a mid-level floor, he also had a mid-to-high ceiling. He wasn't a playmaker. Our running back was. Henry at his peak could make chicken salad and take it 99 yards. And while it was great seeing Henry put on a show, anyone with a brain knew it would be short lived and our QB would have to make plays when shit didn't go as planned. For many, the Bengals game was proof that our QB would never beat a Burrow or any other top QBs because their QB was a playmaker and ours was not, our RB was. So ultimately, unless you hit on all-stars at every other position you're wasting your time. But then some people would say, "if we just added more receivers, if we just had a LT, RT, TE, change-of-pace RB, better play calling ..." LIKE HOLY SHIT. Enough. Our QB is not enough. Admit that, then I can talk about our other issues. How many offseasons did we talk about the offensive return of Tannehill like Jesus was coming back? And then he'd have 21 TDs and 14 INTs I have no clue how Levis will turn out. What's refreshing is everyone YOU INCLUDED, can finally see what playmaking talent at the QB position looks like in a Titans uniform. That's why you're on board. Some of you are genuinely shocked at the velocity and the ability to make chicken salad. But that's what a franchise QB should do. And that's what Tannehill wasn't. That's all I've been saying. Edited November 7, 2023 by big2033 CreepingDeath, and Mercalius 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I didn't care about the Spears play lol. I've just been fucking with you. Relax a bit. After seeing the other angle and the breakdown it was indeed a bad throw, a catchable one, but still a bad throw. I agree fully with the rest. I thought he was really impressive versus the Steelers. That is a tough environment and even with some missed throws he handled the pressure well. Mostly agree but the missed plays (decisions/throws) that are tolerated in game 2 are simply because it's game 2 for a rookie. If we are having the same discussion game 7 or 8 or in 2024, it's signficantly different. This is the honeymoon phase right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, BudsOilers said: Mostly agree but the missed plays (decisions/throws) that are tolerated in game 2 are simply because it's game 2 for a rookie. If we are having the same discussion game 7 or 8 or in 2024, it's signficantly different. This is the honeymoon phase right now. For sure, but he was getting smoked out there and kept coming back for more and stayed aggressive. That's a huge plus in my eyes. I also think the ridiculously quick pressure is forcing him to make some reads he may not if he had more time. We'll have to see if first and foremost the team can do even an adequate job of protecting him. Somewhat tangential, but when I say he looked great I mean that with a caveat of him being a rookie behind the worst line in the NFL. The bad throws were mostly still good reads. The accuracy will hopefully get better, and I think it's a great look he's signed on with the QB coach who teaches Burrow, Mahomes, and Allen. BudsOilers, and LongTimeFan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 I think we can win some games. We have a gunslinger now. Anything is possible. We don't need a perfect storm anymore. Don't have to be "good in all phases." We just need some guys to get open and catch the ball. He needs about 2.5 secs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, SleepingTitan said: I honestly wouldn't doubt if they talked to Tannehill about the decision. RT has been pretty tight with Levis on the sidelines. They might even be going to church together by now. To me, that's great. It would be awesome to retain Tannehill on a good backup QB salary to walk this thing through. Ideal in fact. Titans can definitely afford it. Uh, football is church for them, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: I suggest that the error in your thinking is believing the qb's have been the source of any TR conflict. It's far more likely that posters enjoyment of disagreement combined with well practiced trolling and some fragile egos are the true source. So it's highly unlikely Levis can reach that goal. I noted that there will still be trolling and bullshit. What I'm suggesting might change is the QB being at the center of it. Edited November 7, 2023 by Mythos27 Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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