2024 GOP primary

[Jamalisms]

38 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

You can’t engage and then say you don’t want to engage…

 

He can.

 

It's weird, but he can.

[OILERMAN]

4 hours ago, Justafan said:

A pro immigration organization started by Michael Bloomberg published a study that highlighted all the positives while ignoring all the negatives?

 

shocker. You really got me. 

 

There are a million articles and studies on this. They pay in and do not get benefits

[IsntLifeFunny]

14 hours ago, begooode said:

 

Fair point, and I mistakenly attributed false hope to Nikki's experiment when in fact I was trying to get an understanding of how many repubs are willing to reject Trump. I was hoping that there would be a sizeable rift of 'gettable' repubs that would be revealed with more affluent voters.  Indeed in several states with open primaries there was a relatively good showing ~35%, but this did not carryover at all in repub only states, where Trump carried most all counties in the same +75% range, regardless of the demographics. When she endorses Trump, that will be her McConnell moment -- doing the wrong thing at the wrong moment with the most dangerous US politician of a lifetime.

 

My next hope moves to the swing states, that the repubs there sour on the Trump show once his carny barking starts.

If she actually endorses him then she's made a strange deal with the devil. Her only motivation would have to be to protect herself and family. Her career as a politician is over. 

[OILERMAN]

If you're really looking at spending the biggest culprits are presidents like George W and Trump. George W passed the Medicare part D which had a massive cost.

 

But a new drug benefit had been added to Medicare, with no source of financing. The unfunded liability in the new Part D program was estimated at the time to be $17 trillion. (All estimates by the Social Security and Medicare Trustees.)

In other words, Bush was elected in part on the promise to solve a huge entitlements problem. But by the time he left office he had more than doubled the size of the problem.

 

Bush also cut taxes while invading Iraq. That cost trillions.

 

Or Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy:

 

 these tax cuts have added $10 trillion to the debt since their enactment and are responsible for 57 percent of the increase in the debt ratio since 2001, and more than 90 percent of the increase in the debt ratio if the one-time costs of bills responding to COVID-19 and the Great Recession are excluded. 

 

Any step for anyone truly worried about spending and the debt, your first step is to avoid voting for Republicans at all costs

 

[IsntLifeFunny]

29 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

If you're really looking at spending the biggest culprits are presidents like George W and Trump. George W passed the Medicare part D which had a massive cost.

 

But a new drug benefit had been added to Medicare, with no source of financing. The unfunded liability in the new Part D program was estimated at the time to be $17 trillion. (All estimates by the Social Security and Medicare Trustees.)

In other words, Bush was elected in part on the promise to solve a huge entitlements problem. But by the time he left office he had more than doubled the size of the problem.

 

Bush also cut taxes while invading Iraq. That cost trillions.

 

Or Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy:

 

 these tax cuts have added $10 trillion to the debt since their enactment and are responsible for 57 percent of the increase in the debt ratio since 2001, and more than 90 percent of the increase in the debt ratio if the one-time costs of bills responding to COVID-19 and the Great Recession are excluded. 

 

Any step for anyone truly worried about spending and the debt, your first step is to avoid voting for Republicans at all costs

 

I always find it interesting when Republicans bring up Covid as the source of the debt/deficit under Trump.

[OILERMAN]

 

[LongTimeFan]

11 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Undocumented immigrants pay billions in taxes, into social security and medicare without getting any of the benefits. 

 

According to New American Economy, undocumented immigrants contributed $13 billion into the Social Security funds in 2016 and $3 billion to Medicare. Three years prior, the Chief Actuary of the Social Security Administration, Stephen Goss, wrote a report that estimated undocumented immigrants contributed $12 billion into Social Security.

 

If all undocumented immigrants were deported today, next year’s Social Security trust funds would have approximately $13 billion less for benefit payouts. It’s a considerable loss of dollars, especially when it’s projected that the Social Security funds will be depleted by 2034.

Here's an article with what they pay in taxes vs what they consume.  It a different story when you show both sides of the coin.

 

But you're too brainwashed.

 

https://www.fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers-2023

[OILERMAN]

Southern Poverty Law Center added the Federation for American Immigration Reform to its list of hate groups.

 

Of course

[IsntLifeFunny]

39 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

The Republicans are legitimately as a pure amalgamation of like minded thinkers the largest group of dumb people on the planet. They have next to zero grasp of nuance and their leaders laugh at them. 

 

On one hand you have a cowering little bitch in McConnel and then a Jesus crusader talking about defunding the very agencies helping to stop child trafficking, while on the other supporting a man for president who actively has been convicted of rape and has considered Jeffery Epstein a friend. Add in the mass hysteria and shallow conspiracies that essentially state Democrats are vampires (pizza gate). The hypocrisy knows no bounds. 

Edited March 7, 2024 by IsntLifeFunny

[Justafan]

7 hours ago, Starkiller said:

You can’t engage and then say you don’t want to engage…

Yea, that's why I didn't. 

[MadMax]

9 hours ago, Justafan said:

Lol. You don’t quit. I don’t want to engage on these topics. I was responding to the article. There’s no reason to argue with the statistics. There are all kinds of statistics but most of them only tell half the story and are based on guesses and assumptions and are easily contradicted by other statistics. 
 

Also, Bloomberg is not moderate on immigration. He has openly trashed Biden for not giving work authorizations to all asylum seekers and not being far enough left on the issue. 

Then stop.  It's as easy as that.

[Justafan]

4 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

 

There are a million articles and studies on this. They pay in and do not get benefits

By pro-immigrant interest groups?

[Justafan]

Just now, MadMax said:

Then stop.  It's as easy as that.

I did. 

[tgo]

 

@Justafan - Judge him by the company he keeps. This clip is in relation to accusations he hung out with Epstein.

[Justafan]

3 minutes ago, tgo said:

 

@Justafan - Judge him by the company he keeps. This clip is in relation to accusations he hung out with Epstein.

Yeah, he's a weirdo. Conspiracy nutter too.